Scout Camp Recreation

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:35 am

This is something that's been percolating for a while, and I wanted to get some feedback before I start prowling arts-n-crafts stores trying to get supplies on the cheap.

So, as you may or may not know, many of the Gathering attendees are former Scouts of various stripes. One of the big joys of Scout camp, to me, was all the goofy funky arts-n-crafts stuff we did. Tie-dyeing, sand candles, ice candles, regular dip candles (okay, so candles got done a lot), "friendship" bracelets... the works.

So what I'm looking for is:
Who all would be interested in this kind of stuff?
What particular activities do we want to do? I know I'm /all/ about the tie-dye, but beyond that, I'm pretty flexible.
Are there other artsy-craftsy things people would like to do that I've forgotten to list?

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:56 am

Hot Martha Stewart Action!

Thorn, respectfully, I'll decline on the grounds that in school the only arts-and-crafts I did was with running around with a gluegun, gluing my godbrother's head to a table. Or making a bit of clay pottery with a airbubble in the middle so it would explode when baked and take out most of the "artwork" with it.

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:15 am

*Thorn puts Deev in the "runs with scissors" category and counts him out.*

Kwyndig · Post by **Kwyndig** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:17 am

Um, I have exactly zero fine motor skills. I enjoy arts and craftsy type things sometimes, but I don't see much use in them, since everything I make turns out entirely messed up.

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:26 am

Hence the joy of tie-dye - it's impossible to screw up.

But if you don't want to, I'll still be your friend.

EvanMoore · Post by **EvanMoore** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:37 am

You could always issue Super-Soakers loaded with clorine bleach and goggles, then run around and "tye-die" each other while also having a fun shoot out....

...until the fumes overcame you and passed out, of course.

Evan

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:51 am

Seeing as how I missed out when I was little (no girl scouts around, no siblings to glue to tables) I am down with arts and crafts. The cornier, the better.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 9:12 am

Hence the joy of tie-dye - it's impossible to screw up.

Not true. I have a shirt to prove it.

I am so down with this.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 9:22 am

I love the idea. On the other hand, I know myself well enough to know that in practice I´m more likely to be too busy goofing off to do the arts and crafts thing. So put me down as a maybe, ´kay?

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 1:27 pm

I'm all for tie-dye, and got the stock of 50% off Jo-ann's coupons on the desk

I can do corny friendship braclets (funnily enough, its called fingerloop braiding and it dates back to like 700 AD, I know like 14 different kinds now from an SCA class). Tissue paper flowers, monofilamnet beading junk, find one of those cool machines where you spin paper around at exceedly high speeds, and start dripping paint into it to make bizarre designs...

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 1:49 pm

Corny! Must be corny!

Twisted Sister · Post by **Twisted Sister** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 3:14 pm

Corny yes...*mumbles* I can do the friendship bracelets thing too - infact my dad wore the pink and purple one I made him for months....but can we not go overboard...I can see my mom being well happy getting a pasta shapes postcard from her roving daughter.

EvanMoore · Post by **EvanMoore** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 4:55 pm

Oh ... crud.

Whatever you do, get the friendship bracelet thing out of the way before my girls show up...

...I think I still have the tacky, girlish beads dangling from my keychain from a project such as this when Rene'e was 2...

...I can just imagine me wearing friendship bracelets from my daughters for the next two years...

I haven't even worn a wedding ring in over a year... (I'm trying to make the scar go away.)

Evan

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 5:58 pm

Ah... crafts. Something in which potheads always do well.

"Hey take a look at this... I drill a hole here, here and here, seal it up, paint it, add another tube... BAM! A new bong!"

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:01 pm

how bout building shit with popsicle sticks?

WE could see if we could build the renraku arcology out of those and glue.

Ok, maybe a bit much on the geek side.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:18 pm

Yeah. And we build it around 32's head so we can say Deus is trapped in there.

If you're gonna go geek, go all the way.

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:21 pm

Well I have more DMC floss than anyone really needs for bracelets, though I may experiement with the wire I've got to see if it will work, harder on the fingers but much cooler results.

I was never real good with the popsicle stick thing, something about a lack of patience. I do have lots of other nifty things like cel painting and glass etching supplies, though, and tons of Sculpty clay that bakes hard...

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:31 pm

Ok, I have taught VBS and ran several programs at the YMCA. I have crafts out the ass. Tie-die will rock. I'll help with some others, I suppose. At this point in time I'd rather 'instruct' than 'do' unless it's something particularly cool, though.

EvanMoore · Post by **EvanMoore** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 8:12 pm

Model rocketry assembly and launch?

Silent Sniper · Post by **Silent Sniper** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 8:21 pm

If you do that make sure Cash doesn't bring any troll dolls.

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 8:23 pm

EvanMoore wrote: Model rocketry assembly and launch?

Done it. However, my first one I started was good, and therefore got stolen, so I had to start over.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 9:59 pm

A hat sized Big Red would just be cool. Then we could create an entire Model Seattle and get little minis and stage battles and...

Cazmonster has to go sit down for a minute before he ubergeeks.

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 10:37 pm

Liniah wrote:
EvanMoore wrote: Model rocketry assembly and launch?
Done it. However, my first one I started was good, and therefore got stolen, so I had to start over.

Marry me!?

3278 · Post by **3278** » Thu Apr 18, 2002 10:57 pm

I've got a lot of stuff for model rocketry, which is, I think, the only craft in which I have a great deal of interest. Which shouldn't stop any of you; it'll give you all something to do while I'm crashing into shit with a speedboat.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:40 am

*high-fives Silent Sniper*

I did that in 8th grade. None since.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 3:54 am

3278 wrote: it'll give you all something to do while I'm crashing into shit with a speedboat.

Thats cause you'll be swimin in my wake, punk

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:10 pm

Whoah, speedboats? Kick ass...what were talking about again?

Oh, model rockets, right. Nope, never done that. Had friends who did, bought lots of stuff, and promptly lost it. Ooh, hey, does that mean we might have open field area around the site? Stunt kite time...

EvanMoore · Post by **EvanMoore** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:34 pm

Wildfire wrote: Stunt kite time...

Is that when you attach razor blades to the kites and have kite dogfights?

That was always fun--just watch out when they come crashing down!!

Evan

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 5:37 pm

Ummmm, you have heard of a stunt kite, yes?

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 7:33 pm

No, that's kite-fighting, and they used glue and crushed crystal IIRC. But, no, because its expensive and phenominally stupid should you want to keep you kite for more than a few hours.

Stunt kites are usually delta wings with tails and double handles for steering, so you can do dives, corkscrews, etc.

Van Der Litreb · Post by **Van Der Litreb** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 9:34 pm

Uh, can I just sit around and drink alcohol? All these physical activities make me nervous.

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 9:39 pm

I heard you were supposed to be sparing again.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Sat Apr 20, 2002 12:34 am

Thats only if he doesnt pull a deev and just watch

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Tue Apr 23, 2002 3:26 pm

May I suggest nothing to do with knives of any kind?

Paladin

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Tue Apr 23, 2002 5:29 pm

exacto knives are cool

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:17 pm

*Thorn hauls mightily upon the thread steering wheel trying to veer it back on course.*

Okay. While all this commentary has been entertaining, it really hasn't much helped me figure out what level of interest there is in doing crafty-things, much less which crafty-things got the most "votes" and so forth. So for those of you who aren't interested, that's cool. And now, in the politest way I possibly can, I respectfully ask you "Not Interested Folks" to take your commentary to some other thread.

The stuff I'm talking about, and the stuff I'm preparing to go supply-shopping for, has nothing to do with kites, rockets, or any of that other stuff. Which is not to say you can't also do those things (I may be interested myself). But please, if someone really is interested in doing some model rocket building (or whatever), open a new thread? Thanks.

Here's what I'm contemplating:

Tie-dying
Candle making
Macrame "friendship" bracelets (14 different types, Wildfire?!?! Cool!!!)
Lanyards
Beading (I've been thinking about buying a bead loom forever anyway)
"Friendship" pins
Ceramics (playing with clay)
Tissue paper flowers (Wildfire, I'm intrigued by this)
Painting things?? (I'm horrible at painting, so this will sooo be someone else's gig)
Origami
Batiking??

Okay, any other suggestions? What are opinions on these suggestions? Can I have the "Interested Folks" rank these according to level of interest for me? That way, if there's no interest in something, I can throw it off the list and never worry about it again.

Wildfire: If you bring your collection of DMC floss, I'll bring mine. grin. We can all have bracelets out the ass.

Lin: Cool. There's a bunch of stuff I only vaguely remember anymore anyway, so I'll definitely put you on teaching whatever things I can.

Um... more later, but that's a nice prelim, I think. Cool!

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 5:14 am

Coolness.

Bracelets - Yeah, I'll get some copies of the handout I have and we'll have fun
Beading - I can make flowers on single strand monofilament with seed beads...
Sculpty - Oven drying clay, way cool, and cheap too
Tissue flowers - Someone be on the lookout for little yellow paper stamens, they used to sell them with the cake decorating supllies, and I can do cherry blossom branches. Otherwise, you get carnations

Origami - I'll have the good ones from my origami a day calander plus a few I know, and a good bit of actually origami paper

Other stuff if there is interest:

Glass etching: I have the stuff, its not hard
Cel paiinting: Doesn't make much sense outside of anime or other cartoonish stuff, but I can bring the stuff if there's interest

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:07 am

Wildfire's the COOLEST!

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:36 am

Tie-dying - no
Candle making - yes
Macrame "friendship" bracelets - yes
Lanyards - both me and dictionary.com don't know what that is
Beading - yes
"Friendship" pins - yes
Ceramics (playing with clay) - YES!
Tissue paper flowers - yes
Painting things - YES!
Origami - no
Batiking - no

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:48 am

Eva:: You used to have a lanyard (top link).

The kind that Thorn is talking about is the bottom two.

http://www.lanyards.com/

http://www.ravenhilldesign.com/

http://knotsmith.com/T1.htm

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:50 am

Dude! I still have that thing! Philips Silicon Valley Center, mine says. Not so attractive though.

In that case: I vote 'nay'. Knitting and related activities bring back childhood trauma.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 7:54 am

Tie-dying - no
Candle making - yes
Macrame "friendship" bracelets - yes (Call me a camp geek. I dare you.

)
Lanyards - sure
Beading - yes
"Friendship" pins - yes
Ceramics (playing with clay) - yes
Tissue paper flowers - no
Painting things - I'll do it, but I'm horrible at painting (beyond Tech Crew painting)
Origami - yes
Batiking - What???

Dude! I still have that thing! Philips Silicon Valley Center, mine says. Not so attractive though.

It's not the same thing though. I know what Thorn is talking about but I couldn't find a good pic of it. Lanyards are usually 3-4 inches long and go great on keychains.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:41 am

Ah, ok. In that case, my vote remains 'nay'. Sam just bought me a key chain last month or so and I still have my ugly neon iguana.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 11:45 am

Do you still have that orangey noise maker one?

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:22 pm

Damn! No, I forgot about that one. Bring back trauma, why don't you!

Twisted Sister · Post by **Twisted Sister** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:56 pm

Tie-dying - no - trumatic 1980's experiences still too fresh
Candle making - nope
Macrame "friendship" bracelets - yes - I can give them all to my family - they will love me dammit!!
Lanyards - err..no
Beading - hell yes!
"Friendship" pins - *blink*
Ceramics - ooo! potential mishapen presents for friends and family...yes!
Tissue paper flowers - no
Painting things - yes. def.
Origami - nope
Batiking - haven't done that in ages!!! maybe.

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:58 pm

Lanyards - if you ever are in the craft aisle where they sell DMC and other embriodary floss, they have what looks like the same sort of stuff, only plastic and in super bright neon colors. Thats lanyard stuff.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 2:41 pm

Twisted Sister wrote: Batiking - haven't done that in ages!!! maybe.

What is it?

Twisted Sister · Post by **Twisted Sister** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 3:14 pm

ok - you know those rucksacks and handbags that goth girls seem to carry around a lot - they always seem to have those mirrors and stuff sewn to the front, voila! Batik.

Its obviously a bit more complicated that that...right?!...but anyway thats the bare bones of it. I think.

*waits for someone to tell her that she is on glue and completely wrong

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Wed Apr 24, 2002 4:00 pm

No, you're right - though I'm thinking less goth, more brightly colored ethnic-y.

It's something that would have gone best with tie-dying, which appears to be dying a slow voter-induced death. Which is okay.

Basically, you take a piece of white cloth and a "pen" that "writes" in paraffin wax. You need to have your design pretty much in mind already when you start, because any part of that cloth you want to remain white, you "paint" in wax. Then you throw it into the lightest color dye you want to use (say, yellow). Then, once the fabric is dry again, you "paint" the parts you want to remain yellow. Once the wax is cooled, you throw it into the next-darkest color you plan to use and continue on until your design is complete.

It's been ages since I did batiking as well, but it's so darn cool, I just had to see if there was interest in it.