Monthly Financials

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:26 am

In which I report the status of funding or lack thereof for Bulldrek, seeing as I need someplace to keep this straight as I kinda offered the Winternight Technologies address in lieu of 32's muchly overdrawn checking account. So initial report.

20 June 2003

+$ 0 Carryover from May
+$ 5 Donations In
- $30 Winternight Technologies Hosting cost for June
+$15 Winternight Technologies subsidy
- $?? Prohosters back payments due (32, please let me know when you can)

Net Funding: -$10+Prohosters back payments

Pending upcoming expenses: Domain renewel/transfer - $15

Financials are always available by email request and will be posted the first of every month. Donations for funding are accepted at winternighttech@winternightex.com Any funding remaining after completing back payments will be put towards prepaying current hosting. Should funding exceed the one year pre-pay amount, funds will be available for group projects such as Gatherings, tshirts, or other community oriented projects as desired.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 1:51 pm

Now that's what I want to see. That way, community can react as whole, and be more aware of status of Bulldrek, etc.

That will help us know how much Bulldrek needs, etc.

Big kudos to you, Kai.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 7:03 pm

Okay, here's a question. I've tried to set up a PayPal account, but I'm running into a slight problem with the fact that the address on my debit/credit card is an APO (military p.o. box) address. Does anyone know a workaround for this? Failing that, what other ways can I make a donation?

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 7:57 pm

Snail mail, Furriners on this board...(example: FlakJacket, if you can make contact with him, he may do things for you.)

etc.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:43 am

The APO thing, not a clue

Might check Paypal's FAQ and see if it says anything. Outside of Paypal depends if you trust me with your money or not

Unfortunatly business accounts require something like $500 - $1000 minimum balance, which, ha, I wiped out my profits with $80 in comp parts last month

Therefore you can send snail mail to

Winternight Technologies
P.O. Box 891
Auburn GA 30011

But the catch is checks or money orders have to be made out to me in order for me to cash them and not the business name.

So obviously, Paypal is better, but if you can't do it, that's fine, send to above address and make checks/mo out to Sara Miller.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 1:56 am

psst....checks made out to you...

under what name? (PM those who inquries.)

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 5:59 pm

Kai wrote:send to above address and make checks/mo out to Sara Miller.

Its not like its that hard to figure out my real name anyways, no need for PM

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:05 pm

DAMMNIT! I MISSED IT!

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:51 pm

The back payments on Prohosters are US$75. If people can PayPal that to Kai, who could [?] pay the amount on her credit or debit card or by check or whatnot, Prohosters would stop sending men with baseball bats to my house.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:23 pm

Turns out Prohosters accepts PayPal payments, so we can do this directly to them. I'm getting the address we should use: as soon as I know what it is, we'll see what we need to do.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:57 am

No problem, funds can be sent from the pool directly to Prohosters address, only I'll probably need some sort of account number or something so they know that it belongs to Bulldrek's account and we're not just random people throwing money at them

Nigga JP · Post by **Nigga JP** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 11:20 pm

Whenever I see the name "Kai" it makes me think "<a href="http://www.y2khai.com/">Khai</a>".

edit:: Link NOT WORK FRIENDLY anymore.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:45 pm

01 July 2003

-$10 Carryover from June
+$31 Donations In
- $15 Winternight Technologies Hosting (at cost) for July
- $150 Prohosters back payments due

Available Cash: $6
Net Funding: -$144

Pending upcoming expenses: Domain renewel/transfer - $15 (still, almost done)

[EDIT] - Are we happy now?

Ka0s 0verdrive · Post by **Ka0s 0verdrive** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:47 am

Heh, it'd be cool to have it in green for the plusses and red for the minuses... Makes the severity a little more apparent... just a thought

3278 · Post by **3278** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:22 am

Add another US$75 in Prohosters bills. And the domain transfer will have to happen soon, so we can cancel our account with them. No e-mail yet on that.

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:02 am

Yeah, minor system glitch caused it to think it was transferred already, email should be coming soon.

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 2:05 pm

Fifty's headed your way this afternoon, Wild.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:35 pm

It will be next Friday before I can contribute - damn rent. Damn it to a spiky hell.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:42 pm

Not a big deal guys, whatever whenever is fine. 32, will you PM me the address and account # for Bulldrek for Prohosters so they can be paid when we have money?

ratlaw · Post by **ratlaw** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:47 am

I just got a message from paypal saying that my donation to winternighttech@paypal.com was unclaimed. Anything wrong with the email address I'm sending to, or have you just been busy, Wild?

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:09 pm

Idiots....okay that used to work, you'll have to cancel and send to winternighttech@winternightex.com instead

Will edit about info as well.

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 1:44 am

What's the current financial situation and how much in donations do we need to get the ball rolling on the domain transfer? Also what's the current paypal account that we send donations to?

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:27 am

Prohosters back payments are up to US$225. I just tried to check what the resultant overdraft fees were up to, but my bank account's been disabled. Since that's the account my PayPal account is registered to, it wouldn't do anyone much good to send money to me, since it would just lower my overdraft, not pay the actual bills.

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 2:28 am

Oh my god. I completely forgot about that check. Tomorrow, I promise; I have to send bills anyway.

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 3:34 am

As soon as there is an account available that can pay the fee please let me know, I'll see what I can do. It won't be much but at least it's something.

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 3:17 am

winternighttech@winternightex.com. Currently we have...like $6, but I need to check if anything's happened in the last 2 weeks. $15 due to WT on 8/1, anything over to that goes to Prohosters as soon as a have an addy or something to send payment to them at.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:47 am

Payday is tomorrow WF. Expect it later tomorrow.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 6:15 pm

02 July 2003

+$6 Carryover from June
+$50 Donations In
- $15 Winternight Technologies Hosting (at cost) for August
- $225 Prohosters back payments due

Available Cash: $41
Net Funding: -$184

Pending upcoming expenses: Domain renewel/transfer - $15 (still, really)

Earl, I need the account number, address, phone number, something for Prohosters if you want us to pay them anything. I have no way to get them any of the money we owe them. Also considering we can't access anything on their servers anymore, I suggest you have them close the account so it doesn't accrue any more fees and we will pay back costs as neccessary.

Also, I've decided not to list names as a privacy issue as far as donations, but if you do send something and want confirmation it was recieved, just note so on Paypal or with the envelope, etc and I'll make sure to let you knwo when I recieve it.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:04 pm

Making life easier one step at a time here...check the Bulldrek Support Site for donation information. Yes I know its probably not what the intended use was but its been under construction forever and its a good use.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 4:12 am

I'm late...

08 September 2003 from 31 August

+$41 Carryover from August
+$25 Donations In
- $15 Winternight Technologies Hosting (at cost) for September
- $30 Domain tranfer of .com and registration of .org
- $225 Prohosters back payments due

Available Cash: $21
Net Funding: -$204

Pending upcoming expenses: None

Still awaiting contact information regarding Prohosters in order for payment to be sent to them.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Thu Oct 02, 2003 1:00 pm

02 October from 08 September

+$21 Carryover
+$420 Donations In
- $10 Paypal fees (sorry, percentage based transaction fees add up for large donations)
- $150 Winternight Technolgies one year hosting prepay
- $225 Prohosters back payments paid

Available Cash: $56
Net Funding: $56

Pending upcoming expenses: None

For hosting we will be at zero balance due until October of 2004. Any funding until such point is up for use by the community for extra domains, CD distribution, Tshirts, Gathering deposit, etc.

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:30 am

Dude. Okay, I'm slow and am just now reading this, but... am I reading this right? We're like, seriously in the black? If that's not just the late-ish hour talking, that's awesome! Yay us!

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:33 am

Neat.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:24 pm

Correct, we're in the black. A couple of real generous people there last month or so.

Unless for some bizarre reason we run out of space (you people would have to really try) we have no expenses until next October hosting wise.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:02 pm

Kai wrote:Unless for some bizarre reason we run out of space (you people would have to really try) we have no expenses until next October hosting wise.

Is that a challenge? *raises an eyebrow*

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:11 pm

Cash are you thinking what I am thinking?

Ah good.

*rushes in the direction of Bulldrek*

Wildfire · Post by **Wildfire** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:06 am

Heh, psst, posts go in the database, which ah, doesn't count against server space

Patience · Post by **Patience** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:12 am

Wildfire wrote:Heh, psst, posts go in the database, which ah, doesn't count against server space

Aww, let the kids have their fun.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:17 pm

Kai:

How are we doing now? Haven't heard much lately.

Paul and I wanted to know

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:46 pm

Bulldrek is paid up until October 2004, and is currently $76 in the black.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:12 am

Sweet, but do you still encourage people to keep up with donations? Or they could be put to a better use?

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:40 am

Well, what do you all want to do with extra money?

Yeah, we can pay out a couple years or so, but if people would rather put it towards a t-shirt design or something else for the community, that's cool, and its not like donations won't be used, but it will just sit there until next year for the moment.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:43 pm

Well, there /are/ still a little over US$350 in back ProHosters bills owed to my bank. I think it's really neat that so many people have given so much for the new server, but we're talking about another $350 on my credit report from server bills now nearly a year old. I don't know if that's something people are interested in helping with, or if we want to cover bills further into the future, instead.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:05 pm

I'd say that's a prefectly reasonable use for money. How about a quick yes/no here, say send you a check every $100? Yes for me.

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:33 pm

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:13 pm

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:19 pm

For some reason, I'm in favor of half-half. Half for future, and half to remove the costs.

Or rather, 75% to remove the costs, and 25% to future.

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:28 pm

Anguirel · Post by **Anguirel** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:30 pm

I'm with Flame. We've put (at least) $150 into the present costs, so the next $200 can easily go to (further) back costs (about equivalent to the previous $210 back-payment and $150 for present costs). Somewhere in the 6-month to 3-month period prior to October (and our next needed payment), we should probably start reserving money for the next pre-pay. Once we have enough for the year, put it in and further donations can, again, go to the back-costs. Or people could send direct to 32, in some fashion. As Paul was considering making a large donation -- if this was the general consensus plan then he could side-step the handling fees and just hand the money over more directly (seeing as they live close enough to see eachother on a regular basis and all).

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:39 pm