[OOC][DnD] Ancient's Game

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:07 pm

I just got a copy of the Eberron Campaign Setting and the Changeling is perfect for your idea, Rico. I can send you a copy whenever you get on AIM or IRC.

Ancient - I should have Luadril's sheet done sometime tonight, just need to figure out her gear.

Elldren · Post by **Elldren** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:56 pm

I'll start writing up Rasiel's bio and c after I'm done with the calculus.

To try and sum up the concepts so far:

Reika: Luadril, Half-Celestial Drow Paladin of Lathander
Paul: Torin Proud, Halfling Rogue
Kai: Koriel Zauth, Half-Drow/Half Avariel Cleric of Lathander
JohnnyRico: Selreth Drevarian, Changeling Rogue
Scamp: Human(Half-Orc?) Mercenary (Ranger?Fighter?) Light-Cav archer type
Elldren: Rasiel, Half-Avariel Planar Ranger of Shaundakul (Cleric coming soon!)
32: ?

edit: Thanks Kai, got her name in
edit: edited to reflect recent changes
edit: and again (thanks Cash)
edit: and again (thanks JR)
edit: and again (Bye Cash)

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:23 pm

Correct as I know it. And her name is Koriel Zauth in case you care.

AH, I'll get stuff to you soon, for brief backstory purposes, Koriel was raised on the surface and knew nothing about the drow, when she asked for guidance, Lanthander sent her to Luadril so she pretty much acts in differance to her.

TheScamp · Post by **TheScamp** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:54 pm

AH mentioned that Unearthed Arcana has a section about rangers, and possible alternatives that are non-spellcasting. If anybody has UA in electronic format, would it be possible to send me the pages with those bits?

Elldren · Post by **Elldren** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:23 pm

Scamp: Unfortunately, both of the ranger variants in UA (Planar Ranger, Urban Ranger) are spellcasters. I'm not finding anything on non-spellcasting rangers here... Though incidentally planar ranger sounds right up my alley

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:26 pm

Okay what the hell is Faerun? Is it a setting? A place? A person?

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:46 pm

Paul: Faerun is the continent/region where the Forgotten Realms takes place on. Other settings on the same world include Kara-Tur (oriental Adventures), and Maztica.

Scamp: I'm sorry, I meant Complete Warrior.

TheScamp · Post by **TheScamp** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:39 am

Ok, does anyone have those specifics?

In any case, the more I refresh myself with the rules, the more it seems that straight up ranger isn't that much of a problem. If we get this to level 4, I can make the horse an animal companion, and then do shit like cast traceless walk on it and other fun things, so it might not be so bad.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:12 am

Variant Ranger from Complete Warrior:

The variant ranger gains all the nromal class features of the ranger, with the following changes and additions.

Spells: The ranger does not gain the ability to cast divine spells.

Fast Movement (Ex): At 6th level, the ranger's base land speed increases by 10 feet. This benefit applies only when he is wearing no armor, light armor, or medium armor and not carrying a heavy load.

Natur'es Blessing (Su): At 11th level and higher, the ranger can use a standard action to add a +4 bonus to his Constitution, Dexterity, or Wisdom score. This ability may be used once per day, and its effect lasts for 1 minute per class level.

Healing Touch(Sp): Once per day, a ranger of 13th level or higher can use either neutralize poisoin or remove disease, as a caster whose level is equal to one half the ranger's class level.

Freedom of movement(Sp): A ranger of 16th level of higher can use freedom of movement on himself once per day, as a caster whose level is equal to one-half the ranger's class level.

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Ancient, can I use the Variant Paladin from Complete Warrior for Luadril? The half-celestial template pretty much covers what spellcasting she'd get as a paladin and I tend to forget about the spellcasting paladins get anyway.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:56 am

Reika: yes, you may.

TheScamp: I sincerely hope everyone at least survives to fourth level.

Paul: Can you send those specs to my yahoo account? Or cut and paste to a PM? 'cause your attachment didn't come through intact; I think my filters took a big wet bite out of it.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:18 am

Woot! Got done with Luadril's sheet. How do you want me to send it?

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:47 am

Will do.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:03 pm

I'll send mine later today (after some sleep). I haven't decided on a Psion or Wizard yet...

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:12 pm

I don'tcarehow y'all send it (though .doc,.html,.pdf,and .rtf are preferred;and no Excel sheets please.), but please send it to m my Yahoo account or PM it to me.

[/edit] Also, tonight I will decide WHERE, exactly, your merry little band will gather together on Faerun; as well as some basic information on it and the environs. So that people can better explain how they got there (unless they want me to do it.)

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:53 pm

I sort of don't know or have your yahoo address dude.

JohnnyRico · Post by **JohnnyRico** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:59 pm

Ok, minor update. Definately going with the Changeling, as it matches my character's concept essentially to the letter. Going to finish the bio up after we find out where we're ending up.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:02 pm

Also appparently the version I snet you-from using the Red Blade Generator System didn't automatically adjust for small creatures and equipment like the rule book says so I will have to adjust all of that before I send it to you.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:33 pm

Okay, my e-mail is ancient0history@yahoo.com

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:58 am

Okay, our Beginning Location for Play shall be : Silverymoon! (Waterdeep is cliché. And booked solid too.)

3278 · Post by **3278** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:45 am

Cool. Paul and I are going to work on our characters this weekend, and should have final versions or at least concepts by Monday. Provided we can decipher 3.5E.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:38 am

If you guys need help, hop onto irc, if I'm there I can help since it's not that much of a difference from 3e.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:22 am

We can't decipher 3e, either. That's the problem.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:44 am

Reika wrote:if I'm there I can help

Hai, Reika-sempai ;P runs away quickly

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:56 am

3278 wrote:We can't decipher 3e, either. That's the problem.

Oh dear, well the offer still holds true. Having been playing 3e since it first came out (not to mentiong GMing) I like to think I have a solid grasp of the game.

ANd if I'm not there, there's other folks in irc who know their shit, I'm sure you can pester them as well.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:02 am

I won't be able to play (got burned out from a long, bad session tonight), but I'm still available to help people with their questions, rules lawyer anything, etc.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:21 am

Can we start out multiclassed?

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:02 am

Under the rules, yes. You have 2 0 level classes.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:01 am

What about that Apprentic stuff Reika (I think) mentioned in irc the other day? Anyone care to tackle that or hand me a link? (I am still googling for it-but I am stupid!)

Elldren · Post by **Elldren** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:19 pm

3278 wrote:Can we start out multiclassed?

Somewhat complex question. Under 3e rules class levels ARE character levels, and as we are all starting from level 1, you may only start with one class level.
Put mathematically:

For a given character
Sum of all Class Levels=Character Level
Therefore If
Character level=1
Then
Sum of all Class Levels=1

Now, there are ways around this, including the rules for gestalt classes in Unearthed Arcana (which are closer to 2e multiclass characters in power level; i.e. very powerful) and variant rules for fractional levels <1 in other classes (apprentice levels). I'm not entirely familiar with these rules, so there aren't any I can recommend off the bat. You might want to consider looking at some of the additional base classes in Complete Warrior or Complete Divine and seeing if they might better fit the concept, though if you're going for an old-school Mage/Thief type those won't help you.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:04 pm

You can start out as apprentice-level in two classes, following the rules in the DM's guide (3.0 edition, I think.)

Likewise, if you meet the prerequisites (due to adding templates or whatnot) you may start out with a prestige class.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:27 pm

Here's the details for 1st level multiclass characters.

Variant: 1st level multiclass characters

At the DM's option, a character may be multiclass at 1st level. Such a character may only have two classes, and one of them must be favored by his race. Half-elves and humans favor no particular class and so can combine any two classes at 1st level.

Since a PC's character level is equal to the sum of all his class levels, a 1st level multiclass character cannot have yet achieved 1st level in either of his classes. Instead, he is considered to be apprentice level in each class. An apprentice gets some but not all of the class benefits usually gained at 1st level. Once the character reaches 2nd level, each class becomes 1st level, and all benefits denied at apprentice level are gone.

At 1st character level

Find the two classes that the character starts with on the table below. The character gets all benefits from both classes combined except when noted below.

In addition to the standard and special abilities shown here, the character gets all weapon and armor skills from both classes (Overlapping weapon and armor skills are not cumulative.)

For hit points, choose one of the two classes to be primary and take standard 1st level hit points for that class. The other class is the secondary class, and the character uses that class's Hit Die for hit points upon gaining 2nd level (see below).

The character has skill points as if he were a 1st level member of his primary class. Skills purchased from the skill list are purchased as a member of the primary class. Maximum rank is calculated as if the character were 1st level: 4 for a class skill (for primary class) and 2 for a cross-class skill (for the primary class).

The 1st level multiclass character has starting gear as his primary class.

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Table&#58; Apprentice Level Characters

Class       BAB     Fort     Ref    Will   Special                                                     Spells*
                                                                                                                        0       1
Fighter        +0       +1       +0     +0    One bonus feat
Barbarian    +0       +1       +0     +0    Rage, fast movement
Paladin        +0       +1       +0     +0    Detect evil, Aura of good**
Ranger        +0       +1       +0     +0    One favored enemy
Wizard        +0       +0       +0      +1                                                              2        0***
Sorcerer      +0       +0       +0     +1                                                              4        2
Cleric           +0       +1       +0     +1    Turn Undead**                                 2        1****
Druid           +0       +1       +0      +1                                                             2        1
Rogue         +0       +0       +1     +0
Bard            +0       +0       +1     +0                                                              1
Monk           +0       +1       +0     +1    Unarmed combat, Wis bonus to AC

*Apprentice level spellcasters know as many spells as their 1st level counterparts. They just can't cast as many per day. Apprentice level spellcasters can cast more spells per day when they achieve 1st level, but they do not gain knowledge of more spells. Bonus spells do apply at apprentice level.
**This ability is level based. Treat the apprentice level character as level zero
***A specialist gains an additional spell from her specialty school as normal.
****The only 1st level spell and apprentice cleric gets is his domain spell which he selects each day from one of his two domains.

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All I have to say is you guys owe me big time for that much typing.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:39 pm

Doumo arigato gozaimasu Reika-sempai!

suspects there will be payback for this later...

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:19 pm

Kai wrote:Doumo arigato gozaimasu Reika-sempai!

suspects there will be payback for this later...

Oh yes, there will be, if you aren't careful the beads on your wineglass charms will be the same color as your house.

Elldren · Post by **Elldren** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:24 pm

Kai wrote:Doumo arigato gozaimasu Reika-sempai!

Iie, douitashimashite

speaking for Reika, because I'm sure she welcomes your thanks. Right? Right?

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:33 pm

<Channels Statesman from the CoH boards>

Maybe.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:30 am

Okay, we're currently waiting on everyone to please finish their characters and send 'em in. Any specific questions y'all have? Need more info on anything?

By-the-by, if y'all don't decide how you end up together, I'll do it for you. So, that's something for y'all to post about.

While I'm on it, something to chew on:
If you all agree, I'd prefer to run a more streamlined IC posting method for combat. That is, in OOC you roll initiative, describe your action(s) for the round [I attack the mage in the purple robe with my Unarmed Strike!], roll for success, I resolve damage; and /then/ I make an IC post describing your attack and the outcome. This means that I can go into more detail on the effect and technique of the character...it'll read more like a story. Rather than someone posting "<My Fighter> uses her Whirlwind Attack on the Goblins." the post would be more like "<Fighter's Name> lashed out with her broadsword, indiscriminately slashing open the goblins arms and faces as they raised their crude swords and clubs in an effort to ward off her furious blows."

Just, y'know, if y'all like. We can do this any way y'all are comfortable with.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:44 am

I'm cool with that, but if you don't mind in my OOC combat posts I'll post a description of Luadril's attacks. Having played Exalted for a few months I've gotten good at descriptive combat.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:23 pm

Sure.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:40 pm

We will only be doing this for combat, yes?

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:09 pm

Right. And only if everyone agrees to it.

Elldren · Post by **Elldren** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:22 pm

Well, I think it's a good idea for combat.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:21 am

Okay per my conversation with Ancient History we will be starting in late summer/early fall of the current year of the Realsms. (Something like 1369 or 1370 I forget which...)

Given how much of a roll winter plays in this setting he has agreed to give regular weather updates as we may need them (And they are available of course...)

Scamp: I downloaded my books through Shareaza-I don't know where 3278 got his, but I'll ask. He burned on CD for me-maybe we can get him to email them to you pr something given your connection speeds, I think thats possible.

TheScamp · Post by **TheScamp** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:46 am

FTP would work as well. Thanks!

As far as the combat goes, I know I really quite enjoy writing combat - it gives me a chance to flesh out the character's combat style, reactions to things, etc. But, I can understand how it could be easier for Ancient to take care of that himself; he can better control how the combat flows that way. If DM combat is what people want, I'm cool with that, but if possible, I'd like to be able to write some of it. Maybe AH gives the combat results (like, you killed 2 of 'em, and took 3 hp yourself) or something, and those of us who want can write up something and send it to him. That can then be GM edited as necessary and put up. That way, people who want to write can do so, those that don't care have less to worry about, and AH can still keep a handle on things.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:30 am

I am okay with it, like Scamp I will likely write up something anyways and give it to Ancient-there by easing his burden, and increasing my own input if I feel I need it. (I'm a halfling, if I am fighting you guys are trippin'!

)

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:12 am

Why do I suddenly have this vision of everyone trying to hide behind my 4'7" tall paladin when we're in combat?

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:29 am

Hey that's a full foot and half, almost, taller than me lady!

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:33 pm

Scamp, Paul: That'll be fine. Like I told Reika; I have no problem with those who want to flesh out their own combat style.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:23 pm

Serious Paul wrote:Hey that's a full foot and half, almost, taller than me lady!

You're the one making a halfling.

Seriously though, my char is almost a foot shorter than the average surface elf and is well below average even for drow who are slightly shorter than other elves.

UG · Post by UG » Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:18 pm

Why do I suddenly have this vision of everyone trying to hide behind my 4'7" tall paladin when we're in combat?

Oh, I'll be well behind you. Just don't mind the arrows wizzing by your ears, eh?

TheScamp · Post by **TheScamp** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:20 pm

Gotta love forgetting to switch accounts.