What did you miss?

Moto42 · Post by **Moto42** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:07 pm

Inspired by What will you miss?.

What did you miss during the downtime?

I'm not sure what I missed exactly. I mostly just lurk, but there is an attitude, a difficult to define something about the stories, debates and culture here that keeps me coming back.
Bulldrek, where love and appreciation are accompanied by a volley of gunfire.

TLM · Post by **TLM** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:11 am

And Ungamunga trolls, and cyberweasels, and nine feet of prehensile cock. Myself, I mostly missed... The Drek. Knowing that no matter what I might say, I might be shouted down, I might be verbally abused, but I'll never be edited and I'll never be modded by anyone but myself.

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:45 am

The people, mostly. Yes, I have a couple tagged on my journal, like Sin, Daki, Moo, and Cash, but there's a shitton of people here other than them. The people like Caz and JPB and CE. The fact that everyone, love each other or want to rip each other's throats out, made up a whacked out, fucked up, homicidally loving family. Sure, we're dysfunctional, but whose real family is perfect?

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:03 am

I think it's awesome that virtually every community you are part of online has a different feel to it. Like, it's not just another place with people posting, there are themes, catch-phrases, relationships and just a completely different feeling to participating in online communities. So when you leave a forum (or the forum leaves), you miss it not just as a place to talk to people, and not even for the people themselves necessarily, a lot of people are on LJ, but it's not the same as Bulldrek existing.

The thing I always liked most about Bulldrek is that it contains just as many arguments and differences of opinion as other forums, but they're actually discussed well, they're comprehendable and legible, unlike the cRaP u FinD no UtHa forums.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:22 am

Some people just post to Animalball. Some people just post to Bulldrek. Some people just post to Deev's forums. Some people just post to lj. Now I can catch up with the people that just visit Bulldrek.

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:56 pm

I missed the people mostly, so many didn't make the move over to animalball and it's a wonderful surprise to see them again here on BD.

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:50 pm

Yeah, I kind of burned out on Animalball after a while. Even though it had several of the BD folks, it seemed like "The Brasky Show". I know Kyle wanted to keep the posts coming, so it's not like I blame him or anything.

I haven't been so good at keeping up with folks via LiveJournal. Went through a depressive funk and purged the friends-list. I refriended folks that still stuck around but several folks just went away. Not suprising really.

Crazy Elf · Post by **Crazy Elf** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:09 pm

I missed the community. Although sections of us went to various other hangouts, it was never the same. To have all the 'drekers in the same place rocks so much that puppies jump into helicopter blades in tribute, raining their bloody debris on their howling mothers.

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:15 pm

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:35 pm

Crazy Elf wrote:I missed the community. Although sections of us went to various other hangouts, it was never the same. To have all the 'drekers in the same place rocks so much that puppies jump into helicopter blades in tribute, raining their bloody debris on their howling mothers.

How's it feel to be sandwiched between two Amperes?

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:41 pm

I missed having a single solid online community with which to interact. None of the successor forums were what I wanted, and LJ's not the same. In many ways I filled the gap with online gaming, particularly my MMO guild (SWG, EQ2, WoW) and other WoW communities, but there's only so many times you can hear "lol, gay!" as a pejorative before you snap and start yelling.

ak404 · Post by **ak404** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:56 pm

My sanity, mostly.

I missed having a solid forum where I could bounce off my flakiest ideas, or even one of peers (not in a gaming sense, but as far as age demographic goes).

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:45 pm

I missed the community more than anything. It is as hard as hell to find a bunch of people that are intelligent and share your interests without being crack smoking biatches that obsess about said shared interests. Like J I filled the gap with livejournal, which was good for keeping in touch but not for the conversation, and WoW, which is cool fun and kind of gaming related but no good for the socialising.

I really started missing it when I moved over here though, as I am now friendless and lacking someone to shag, both of which BD supplied - mainly IC, the slut.

Crazy Elf · Post by **Crazy Elf** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:38 pm

Angel wrote:How's it feel to be sandwiched between two Amperes?

God damnit, I'm not gay!

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:03 am

The kinship, the people, I have many memories with a lot of people here, and since we all live so far apart this has been the best way to keep track of them all.

7 years of talking to one another does that too ya.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:29 am

I missed being touched in inappropriate places.

Eliahad · Post by **Eliahad** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:15 am

I missed the touching.

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:19 am

Eliahad wrote:I missed the touching.

The touching, or ...the touching?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:19 pm

I missed the people and the feel of the place.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue May 01, 2007 1:46 pm

Maybe this is weird, but you know what I missed? The smilies. I love that freespeech doesn't have any: it fits with the stripped-down elemental vision I have for the place, but if there are going to be smilies, I want these. And I never thought about it until I was rebuilding the smilies table, and I was all like, "Hell yeah, Lin's crack smilie! And Wide-eyes! Oh, a real laughing smilie! An animated wink! And the bug-eyes 'Holy shit!' smilie! This is old-school." And who can forget Tard.

We lost - somehow - the old smilie descriptions, so I had to come up with new ones, which honestly was half the fun of rebuilding the table.

Moto42 · Post by **Moto42** » Tue May 01, 2007 2:24 pm

Crazy Elf · Post by **Crazy Elf** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:10 pm

Smilies

are

the

WIN!

Moto42 · Post by **Moto42** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:15 pm

I missed that.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Tue May 01, 2007 4:03 pm

Just for 32:

The description of which, in the smilies table, seems more than apt.

Brasky · Post by **Brasky** » Tue May 01, 2007 5:20 pm

Ampere wrote:Yeah, I kind of burned out on Animalball after a while. Even though it had several of the BD folks, it seemed like "The Brasky Show". I know Kyle wanted to keep the posts coming, so it's not like I blame him or anything.

Ahhhhh... to be the center of the universe.

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:14 pm

Brasky wrote:
Ampere wrote:Yeah, I kind of burned out on Animalball after a while. Even though it had several of the BD folks, it seemed like "The Brasky Show". I know Kyle wanted to keep the posts coming, so it's not like I blame him or anything.
Ahhhhh... to be the center of the universe.

Nahh...nevermind. I blame him. It's all Brasky's fault.

Brasky · Post by **Brasky** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:26 pm

Ampere wrote:
Brasky wrote:
Ampere wrote:Yeah, I kind of burned out on Animalball after a while. Even though it had several of the BD folks, it seemed like "The Brasky Show". I know Kyle wanted to keep the posts coming, so it's not like I blame him or anything.
Ahhhhh... to be the center of the universe.
Nahh...nevermind. I blame him. It's all Brasky's fault.

YES!

*takes victory lap*

You know I love you, Amp.

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Tue May 01, 2007 7:29 pm

Brasky wrote:
Ampere wrote:
Brasky wrote: Ahhhhh... to be the center of the universe.
Nahh...nevermind. I blame him. It's all Brasky's fault.
YES!

*takes victory lap*

You know I love you, Amp.

You know I only do this for you.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:33 pm

I'm still working out how to say this in a concise manner, but I missed the nature of debating here.

Well, I guess that's concise, or compact at least. Here's the long version. When this place shut down I still had an itch to debate things online. I went to Animalball at first, but most of the discussion was on gaming and there was not a lot of content to discuss. The community was smaller and more focussed on kicking back and having laughs; which I loved about it, but wasn't what I was really looking for. I've learned a lot of things over the years by watching and participating in debates online. Keeps me from being totally stuck in place.

So I followed Sal to www.penny-arcade.com and it was like moving from a comfortable mid-sized town to the big city. People don't really have time for you unless you're directly confronting them or assisting them. (It's not their fault, I'm slow to work into any social group). They're all hardcore debaters over there, so my form of argument is less common. Whereas I'm more likely to say "Hey, I don't think you've thought this through all the way. Did you consider...", over there it's a lot more confrontational. You're never mistaken, you're a retard. And if you're not pursuing a degree that's directly related to the subject at hand, you might as well sit down and shut up. There's advantages to the way they do things there, but it's not the kind of place where I feel comfortable trying to contribute a lot.

Here, it always dipped a little into the hardcore debate, but was mostly a discussion where tempers might flare, but you wouldn't be shouted down just for voicing an opinion. Also, we didn't counter fallacious arguments by just naming the fallacy like we were mugging for the judges (at least not till near-ish the end when Cain was actively trying to kill the board).

That's what I missed.

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Wed May 02, 2007 10:57 am

WillyGilligan wrote:Whereas I'm more likely to say "Hey, I don't think you've thought this through all the way. Did you consider...", over there it's a lot more confrontational. You're never mistaken, you're a retard. And if you're not pursuing a degree that's directly related to the subject at hand, you might as well sit down and shut up. There's advantages to the way they do things there, but it's not the kind of place where I feel comfortable trying to contribute a lot.

Here, it always dipped a little into the hardcore debate, but was mostly a discussion where tempers might flare, but you wouldn't be shouted down just for voicing an opinion.

I think that's got a lot to do with the goals of the discussion/argument. I like it how here, while still pushing a point, there is more emphasis on discussing, contributing, learning and coming to an over-all conclusion that isn't necessarily what you, someone else or anyone previously thought of. The goal is not always to win, it's to collaborate and grow, actually achieve something worth thinking about.

Toryu · Post by **Toryu** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:01 pm

Sowhat wrote:
WillyGilligan wrote:Whereas I'm more likely to say "Hey, I don't think you've thought this through all the way. Did you consider...", over there it's a lot more confrontational. You're never mistaken, you're a retard. And if you're not pursuing a degree that's directly related to the subject at hand, you might as well sit down and shut up. There's advantages to the way they do things there, but it's not the kind of place where I feel comfortable trying to contribute a lot.

Here, it always dipped a little into the hardcore debate, but was mostly a discussion where tempers might flare, but you wouldn't be shouted down just for voicing an opinion.
I think that's got a lot to do with the goals of the discussion/argument. I like it how here, while still pushing a point, there is more emphasis on discussing, contributing, learning and coming to an over-all conclusion that isn't necessarily what you, someone else or anyone previously thought of. The goal is not always to win, it's to collaborate and grow, actually achieve something worth thinking about.

Well said.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Wed May 02, 2007 1:21 pm

*nods in agreement with Willy, Sowhat, and Toryu*

Moto42 · Post by **Moto42** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:02 pm

Excellently put.

Toryu · Post by **Toryu** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:08 pm

Group hug?

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:10 pm

Nope...group grope.

TLM · Post by **TLM** » Wed May 02, 2007 2:11 pm

Yeah, I'll agree with that , Willy and Toryu. Plus, at the risk of sounding all sentimental and shit, you people are intelligent, witty, and opinionated in a very good way. Even though I have wanted to chew my desk a couple of times.

[Edit] Group grope? Yes please!