[DSF Echo] Shadowrun in your own eyes.

[Serious Paul]

I enjoy Shadowrun a lot. I try to be a very active member in Shadowrun community when I can.

I encourage all of you to view this incrediblely long winded, long to read,long (GET THE POINT!) thread and to add your own comments as you see fit.

I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me, or what I said, but I value all of your input.

[Subversive Agent]

I tend to agree with you Paul, even though I do aknowledge that some GM's prefer to play street level campaigns. And in such cases, the players don't really need to know wether villiers farts in his bathtub and wether his bubbles stink or not. It's just not directly relevant to the runner on the street, much like it isn't relevant if you're packing meat in company X and a new marketing director is hired. It's just too way over your head.

[Instant Cash]

Damn Paul, that was a long ass post.

I agree, I like any info I can get, whether it is Villers vacation spot, or the latest Nerp flavors.

I can /sorta/ see what he is saying in the fact that the books that have come out are not as "player" focused but more GMtools. Which is what I thought he was saying untill I read more of what he wrote.

I like both personally, I want it all.

[Serious Paul]

My biggest problem with people like him isn'tt hat they want the game to include their particular perspective-its that they want it to be at the exclusion of all other view points.

[DV8]

Then maybe you should've said that, instead of arguing point upon point.

[Amber]

He didn't do the polite disclaimer thing, about 'this is just my opinion' etc. Sprinkle a few of those around, and there's much less of a problem.

[Eva]

<cue "Disclaimer" discussion>

[WillyGilligan]

*cue meta-conversation discussion-"Witty rejoinder"*

[Eva]

<insert ad hominem attack brought on by male variety of PMS>

[MooCow]

<insert donkey sex>

[Daki]

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