John Edwards

mrmooky · Post by **mrmooky** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:59 pm

So, yeah. For those of you who haven't heard, Edwards will be Kerry's running mate in the US election.

I'm wondering what people's opinions on Edwards are. Personally, I think Kerry is mad to not choose Clark or Nelson, but maybe American voters see something in Edwards that I don't. He certainly has a charisma that Kerry seems to lack. There's a lot of talk about Edwards's injecting some youthful vitality into the race... but the guy's 51!

I'm interested to hear what other people think of Edwards as a choice.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:09 pm

Ooh! I really like him since that piece in GQ last year. Vaps0rs.

Reika · Post by **Reika** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:12 pm

Personally, I'm glad to see that Edwards was chosen, if only because of what he did for his state and what he wanted to do for the middle class, of which I am part of, even if it is the bottom of the lot.

As for youthful, iirc, 51 is young for a Pres/VP candidate, and compared to Cheney, he IS young.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:15 pm

I think Edwards is just another rich white guy. No different from Kerry, or Bush, or Cheney, or any of the rest.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:16 pm

I think he's a douche.

"I'm saying this to you, John Edward, you are a liar, you are a fake, and you are the biggest douche ever. Because the big questions in life are tough: Why are we here? Where are we from? Where are we going? But if people believe in asshole douchey liars like you, we're never gonna find the real answer to those questions. You aren't just lying, you're slowing down the progress of all mankind, you douche!"

Wait...John Edward/s/? Oh. Never heard of him.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:26 pm

That would be awesome! I would so vote for Kerry if he had John Edward as his running mate. Edward is such a fraud, which means he's be /perfect/ for politics.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:58 pm

I now have one lurid fantasy that has blown away all of the varied violence dreams and revenge fantasies of my wandering mind.

I want Edwards to get Cheney in a debate and beat the man to death. I want Cheney down on the ground, face purpled and gasping for breath from the verbal abuse Edwards heaps on him.

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:15 pm

Damn. And I was starting to ponder Kerry. Sounds like a McCain write in for Teja this year.

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:43 pm

Cazmonster wrote:I now have one lurid fantasy that has blown away all of the varied violence dreams and revenge fantasies of my wandering mind.

I want Edwards to get Cheney in a debate and beat the man to death. I want Cheney down on the ground, face purpled and gasping for breath from the verbal abuse Edwards heaps on him.

I don't know anyone who is as cool as Caz.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:27 pm

You know - if they were to give us enough lead time on a Cheney/Edwards debate, I'm sure we could get a bunch of Bulldrekkers together and rent out one of those sports-bars with the big screens. Then, we could all sit back and watch the verbal manbeating.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:48 pm

I'll be sure to wear my "I <3 Cheney" shirt and sit right next to you Caz.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:06 pm

Daki - you're an evil evil man. Some day, some glorious day, The Man is going to outsource your job to Pakistan.

Eliahad · Post by **Eliahad** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:57 pm

I'm seeing something about a letter of the alphabet...maybe a number...maybe both? Right and now it's an animal, vegetable or a mineral, perhaps all three combined...

Mjelvis · Post by **Mjelvis** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:26 pm

John Edward looks like a grown-up Deev.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:46 pm

Bwack-ack-ack.

Cheney would whup Edwards ass. Well his secret army of men in black helicopters would hire peopel to do it.

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:30 am

When they announced that on the news today, I was like, "WHAT?! The crazy psychic dude is going for vice president? Against Bush? Ah crap. I'm glad I can't vote." Then I realized it wasnt him.

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:10 am

Mjelvis wrote:John Edward looks like a grown-up Deev.

According to some that's a contradictio in termini.

lorg · Post by **lorg** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:59 am

He looks pretty young, even thou he is apparently 51. Working class that became rich by being a lawyer (isn't that the american dream? rags to riches). Being a lawyer he should be one hell of a speaker so I recon he could utterly annihilate Cheney in the VP debate from a retorical standpoint, if it was vs Bush it would be a complete slaughter.

They say he doesn't have any experience beyond senator. We'll Bush didn't have any either besides being Gov of Texas and having a father that was VP and Pres.

Heard the gasps on FOX last night about how horribly liberal he was, no 1 liberal in the country etc blah blah blah ... Kerry was apparently no 4, wonder who's 2 and 3.

But doesn't he have that kind of "man-of-the-people" kind of thing that Bush had last election and Clinton before him? He appears to be some kind of likable family guy. Naturally that could just be the "ordinary" politicall fake thing but still.

Would McCain have been a better choice? Sure but he didn't want to.

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:07 pm

The man is a good public speaker. I'm just not convinced he can make a big difference, although I have been told that the VP only has a small impact at best in the presidential race.

He is certainly /no where near/ as good as Dick Cheney. That dude can speak, as well as possessing decades of experience as a public servant in damn near every capacity. When it comes to the debate Cheney will tear Edwards a new one. I am sure that on the day of the debate Edwards will be the one pushing brown.

Then again, I think Kerry has enough experience as a statesman that he doesn't need an experienced running mate, only someone that can act as a spokesperson. Bush, having not as much experience needed someone like Cheney.

Ghotty · Post by **Ghotty** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:16 pm

edwards can go to hell. I say this as a poor Norht Carolina taxpayer(or...avoider..

). He's got a bad record as the senator for North Carolina, having been absent on numerous votes and sessions. Bad record period. so he's cute. Fucking a.

He's a piece of eastern country shit. Go to hell, slavedriver.

However, he does brign the southern bloc closer to Kerry, being that he is a *real* southern boy, not like Bush. And he may just win alot of the female votes. Fucker. It's a good veep choice. If I was Kerry, I woulda done it.

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:51 pm

Picking Edwards definately shows Kerry's views on HMOs.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:59 pm

However, he does brign the southern bloc closer to Kerry, being that he is a *real* southern boy, not like Bush. And he may just win alot of the female votes. Fucker. It's a good veep choice. If I was Kerry, I woulda done it.

I think it's a common mistake to think that Edwards is there to help Kerry win the south. Kerry's written off the south. Edwards couldn't win re-election to his Senate seat, much less win southern states in the presidential election. He tanked there in the primaries. Edwards is there to play to blue collars in states like OH and PA. He's going to drop any trace of liberalism from his image (which will be hard) and go play Walmart-shopper-made-good in battleground states, pretending to be a lower class boy who's out there fighting for his neighbors.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:05 pm

I agree with Marius.

lorg · Post by **lorg** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:10 am

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:07 am

I like that they can laugh at themselves with the "Not Exclusive". That's cool.

Twisted Sister · Post by **Twisted Sister** » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:36 am

Cazmonster wrote: Some day, some glorious day, The Man is going to outsource your job to Pakistan.

Yeah okay, so I join the party unfashionably late, either way Caz deserves the props for that smackdown.