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Heh. Funny. Both places I lived, the map was on target. Here in MI, I call it "pop," but when I moved to Virginia Beach, I got into the habit of calling it "soda." It took awhile when I moved back, but now I'm back to good old "pop" again.
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beer...of course its TexasNightsky wrote:I wonder what the hell that lttle county in Texas call their generic drinks?
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I tend to do that as well. Other then that, I think I interchange Pop and Soda fairly evenly.I use coke. It has so many meanings to begin with.
Because those are even stupider names?Pop? POP!?! What?! Sounds like popsicle not a drink. Why not just call it Fizzy or Carbo ...
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In most places I've been to in Texas (80% of the state), Coca-Cola is the Water of Life. So, if you ask them what they call their sodas, they say "Coke" because that's what's mostly consumed. Now, if you ask them something like "What do you call the carbonated beverages you drink?", you'll get a response of "Coke, Pepsi, Sprite... depends on what I'm drinking."
In my experience, I've found that Texans tend not to lump all drinks into either "Soda" or "Pop". Instead, they call it by what they're drinking. This change of pace took a lot to get used to in Illinois. I'd hear "What do you want to drink?" and hear "Pop." as a response, but no specification of WHAT kind. Is it really that difficult to respond with the brand name instead of a generic "Pop"?
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In my experience, I've found that Texans tend not to lump all drinks into either "Soda" or "Pop". Instead, they call it by what they're drinking. This change of pace took a lot to get used to in Illinois. I'd hear "What do you want to drink?" and hear "Pop." as a response, but no specification of WHAT kind. Is it really that difficult to respond with the brand name instead of a generic "Pop"?
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I just wanna know which 9 assholes in my county called it "Pop" and whether or not they went to Fredonia for college. It's soda, thanks much.
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SODA. And like I've always said, Pittsburg might as well be part of the mid-west. Damn pop-callers...look at how PA is divided...it devides like that a lot. Anyway, 468 people in my county said soda! Woot!
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Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
never be soda! Always Pop!
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Soda Pop. Isn't that the words origin? Am I totally wrong here?Nash wrote:Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
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Also didn't Soda fountains once serve Cokes?
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Can I just call it 'cola', 'root beer', 'mountain dew', or 'etc'? Which is what I usually do...
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Those things, as you note, are "cream" soda, "chocolate" soda, and so on, as Chopper mentioned. [Man, do you guys never log out? ] Technically, a "soda" is any chemical compound containing sodium. Today's soft drinks are technically only sodas because sodium is added, but originally, that's how they got the carbon dioxide bubbles in: add sodium bicarb[onate] to lemonade or orange juice, and the citric acid reacts with the sodium bicarb to produce CO2 fizz.Nash wrote:Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
never be soda! Always Pop!
I shouldn't say that. "Originally," what we now call soda water didn't have any sodium in it at all, because it was made simply by pouring water back and forth from one glass to another in the nine-inch layer of what they called "fixed air" on top of beer vats. The person who first made it, Joseph Priestly, was doing all kinds of experiments with the "fixed air" - which we now call carbon dioxide - mostly because he was trying to make money, and couldn't, because his vocation was as a preacher, which he did quite badly on account of his stammer. Not mostly, I suppose: mostly, he was, in the fashion of the day, just playing around with science. He independantly discovered oxygen, for instance. Good guy, if a bit of a creep. [He was eventually driven out of Leeds in the notorious and ill-mannered Priestly Riots, named after him although his role in causing them was quite minimal.] This water would best be described not as "soda," but rather as "carbonated." [See, "carbon?" Get it? These names all mean things.]
Priestly tried to interest the Admirality in his water as a cure for scurvy, but they were not interested, so he took his idea to the spas of the day, who ate it up [in somewhat mixed metaphor].
Around this time - the late 18th century, I guess? - Britain was opening up huge swaths of India for use as plantations, because they'd run out of room to grow things at home, and thus colonized the rest of the world to exploit their resources. Unfortunately, opening up the jungle meant that streams which had previously been too cold for mosquitoes were now being warmed by the sun, and thus mosquito populations soared, including - and I bet you saw this coming - the Anopheles. Thus malaria - which, at the time, they thought was caused by rotting vegetation; "mal aria" means "bad air" in Italian - began to devastate the British forces in the colony; their life expectancy was half what it would have been if they'd stayed in Britain.
The only "cure" for malaria was powder from the inside of the bark of the cinchona tree, called quinine. It tasted absolutely abysmal. So someone thought, "Hey, let's put some of it in Priestly's water!" [Not his personal water; he was dead 40 or 50 years by this point.] So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.] This was still horrible, so some unnamed hero thought, brilliantly, "We'll just add a spot of gin!" Thus was born the gin and tonic.
I don't know where the hell the word "pop" comes from, but it's the word I use.
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My grandfather still drinks quinine water (or what passes for it these days).
The term "pop" came about in 1861. It applied to soft drinks in 1892 when William Painter patented a 'Crown Cork Bottle Seal' to prevent CO2 from escaping the drinks (hence it "popped" when opened.)
Also, Ginger Ale was invented in Ireland; Dr. Pepper (1881) preceeded Coke (1886) which preceeded Pepsi (1898); and 7-Up was originally known as "Bib-labal lithiated lemon-lime soda."
The term "pop" came about in 1861. It applied to soft drinks in 1892 when William Painter patented a 'Crown Cork Bottle Seal' to prevent CO2 from escaping the drinks (hence it "popped" when opened.)
Also, Ginger Ale was invented in Ireland; Dr. Pepper (1881) preceeded Coke (1886) which preceeded Pepsi (1898); and 7-Up was originally known as "Bib-labal lithiated lemon-lime soda."
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I call it soda mostly because when I think of the word pop I ususally attach it to one of the words for father and well I don't want to drink something that could be thought of as a father. Of course I'm just wierd like that.
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It sure fucking does. Lots of sugar, lots of calories, and a bit of quinine. I'm not sure what the quinine does, but I've definitely helped myself survive some particularly nasty mornings with the sugary tonic as sustenance. Granted, the nastiness of the mornings had more than a little to do with the tonic, but that doesn't dilute my drink, does it?So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.]
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We call it "soft-drink". I know that the term technically means any non-alcoholic drink, but if you were to offer someone soft-drink here they'd be very suprised if you gave them milk, cordial, water, coffee, tea, or anything else that isn't carbonated.
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Ah-ah. No. "Tonic water" is just water with bubbles. [I sure /hope/ your tonic doesn't still come with quinine, since that would make it taste more awful, and wouldn't do anything for you, unless you're in a malarial area.] I'm sure there are various /types/ of tonic water that come with sugar, or quinine [although tonic with quinine is "quinine water"] but tonic water is, to my knowledge, just the stuff Priestly made: water with CO2 bubbles in it.Marius wrote:It sure fucking does. Lots of sugar, lots of calories, and a bit of quinine. I'm not sure what the quinine does, but I've definitely helped myself survive some particularly nasty mornings with the sugary tonic as sustenance.So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.]
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