pop or soda?

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:14 am

Eliahad · Post by **Eliahad** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:37 am

I'm going against my state to say, "SODA!"

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:38 am

Intresting. I must be one of the few people in my county that says Soda.

Thanks, Meri and I got a big kick out of this.

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:45 am

Heh. Funny. Both places I lived, the map was on target. Here in MI, I call it "pop," but when I moved to Virginia Beach, I got into the habit of calling it "soda." It took awhile when I moved back, but now I'm back to good old "pop" again.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:55 am

I have always called it pop. As Gunny pointed out one time, "It's a yankee thing."

Nightsky · Post by **Nightsky** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:58 am

I wonder what the hell that lttle county in Texas call their generic drinks?

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:01 am

If you click on the state it gives you county by county break down.

Only 22 people in my county responded to this poll.

sinsual · Post by **sinsual** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:14 am

Nightsky wrote:I wonder what the hell that lttle county in Texas call their generic drinks?

beer...of course its Texas

Nightsky · Post by **Nightsky** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:17 am

Figures.

And only 4 people in my county responded. :cool

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:49 am

Funny. Every county I've ever lived in is "pop" on the map, but I've always used "soda".

Nightsky · Post by **Nightsky** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:54 am

I use coke. It has so many meanings to begin with.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:12 am

Soda! Although the curse of the Midwest slips out and I occasionally say pop.

lorg · Post by **lorg** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:17 am

Pop? POP!?! What?! Sounds like popsicle not a drink. Why not just call it Fizzy or Carbo ...

Twisted Sister · Post by **Twisted Sister** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:24 am

Funny Meericans .

It's Fizzy Drink! And Coke means Pepsi or Coke, just like Hoover means vacumn cleaner regardless of brand.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:25 am

I use coke. It has so many meanings to begin with.

I tend to do that as well. Other then that, I think I interchange Pop and Soda fairly evenly.

Pop? POP!?! What?! Sounds like popsicle not a drink. Why not just call it Fizzy or Carbo ...

Because those are even stupider names?

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:12 pm

I should start saying soda-pop just to fuck with their figures a bit. Still, the map looks approx. correct.

It'd be interesting to consider the green versus RC Cola distribution areas.

lordhellion · Post by **lordhellion** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:38 pm

I have never seen such a bizarre study, let alone on that makes everyone I know freaking beserk as to what the "proper" answer is. Man, I've got werd friends.

laughing Monkey · Post by **laughing Monkey** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:43 pm

Soda. We also just called it Soda-Pop.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:45 pm

In most places I've been to in Texas (80% of the state), Coca-Cola is the Water of Life. So, if you ask them what they call their sodas, they say "Coke" because that's what's mostly consumed. Now, if you ask them something like "What do you call the carbonated beverages you drink?", you'll get a response of "Coke, Pepsi, Sprite... depends on what I'm drinking."

In my experience, I've found that Texans tend not to lump all drinks into either "Soda" or "Pop". Instead, they call it by what they're drinking. This change of pace took a lot to get used to in Illinois. I'd hear "What do you want to drink?" and hear "Pop." as a response, but no specification of WHAT kind. Is it really that difficult to respond with the brand name instead of a generic "Pop"?

Yankees.

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:36 pm

I just wanna know which 9 assholes in my county called it "Pop" and whether or not they went to Fredonia for college. It's soda, thanks much.

UncleJoseph · Post by **UncleJoseph** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:43 pm

It's almost 50/50 pop to soda in my county. Funny though, I never hear anybody refer to it a soda.

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:30 pm

SODA. And like I've always said, Pittsburg might as well be part of the mid-west. Damn pop-callers...look at how PA is divided...it devides like that a lot. Anyway, 468 people in my county said soda! Woot!

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:55 pm

at 120,464 respondants, I am suspecting this map is fairly inaccurate. But yeah, my county is correct.

Nash · Post by **Nash** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:44 am

Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
never be soda! Always Pop!

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:48 am

Then, of course, there's Moxie. Which really deserves it's own category.

Nexusvoid · Post by **Nexusvoid** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:10 am

Soda.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:52 am

Nash wrote:Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
never be soda! Always Pop!

Soda Pop. Isn't that the words origin? Am I totally wrong here?

Also didn't Soda fountains once serve Cokes?

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:35 am

Ancient History wrote:I should start saying soda-pop just to fuck with their figures a bit.

No.

No.

NEIN!

NON!

Do. Not. Call. It. "Soda-Pop". It makes me
IRRATIONALLY
A N G R Y

:plode

Thank you. Buh-bye.

Kwyndig · Post by **Kwyndig** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:40 am

Can I just call it 'cola', 'root beer', 'mountain dew', or 'etc'? Which is what I usually do...

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:45 am

Now how many submitted to the site after reading this thread?

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:53 am

If you put ice cream in it, then it is called "An ice cream soda". So no, soda doesnt have ice cream, it has to be added, which then turns it into the above.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:05 pm

Here are the figures for Cook County in Illinois (Cook county is where Chicago is located):

County Total Pop Coke Soda Other
Cook 3420 2613 140 617 50

In a county of about 4-5 million people... 3,000 responded. Yeesh. But the numbers are about right. Pop is the definitive term in this area.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:45 pm

Nash wrote:Why in the world would you call it "soda"? Soda is a different kind of drink than Coca-Cola. It's "a refreshment made from carbonated water, ice cream, and usually a flavoring." Cream Soda, chocolate soda, cherry soda. Coca-cola will
never be soda! Always Pop!

Those things, as you note, are "cream" soda, "chocolate" soda, and so on, as Chopper mentioned. [Man, do you guys never log out?

] Technically, a "soda" is any chemical compound containing sodium. Today's soft drinks are technically only sodas because sodium is added, but originally, that's how they got the carbon dioxide bubbles in: add sodium bicarb[onate] to lemonade or orange juice, and the citric acid reacts with the sodium bicarb to produce CO2 fizz.

I shouldn't say that. "Originally," what we now call soda water didn't have any sodium in it at all, because it was made simply by pouring water back and forth from one glass to another in the nine-inch layer of what they called "fixed air" on top of beer vats. The person who first made it, Joseph Priestly, was doing all kinds of experiments with the "fixed air" - which we now call carbon dioxide - mostly because he was trying to make money, and couldn't, because his vocation was as a preacher, which he did quite badly on account of his stammer. Not mostly, I suppose: mostly, he was, in the fashion of the day, just playing around with science. He independantly discovered oxygen, for instance. Good guy, if a bit of a creep. [He was eventually driven out of Leeds in the notorious and ill-mannered Priestly Riots, named after him although his role in causing them was quite minimal.] This water would best be described not as "soda," but rather as "carbonated." [See, "carbon?" Get it? These names all mean things.]

Priestly tried to interest the Admirality in his water as a cure for scurvy, but they were not interested, so he took his idea to the spas of the day, who ate it up [in somewhat mixed metaphor].

Around this time - the late 18th century, I guess? - Britain was opening up huge swaths of India for use as plantations, because they'd run out of room to grow things at home, and thus colonized the rest of the world to exploit their resources. Unfortunately, opening up the jungle meant that streams which had previously been too cold for mosquitoes were now being warmed by the sun, and thus mosquito populations soared, including - and I bet you saw this coming - the Anopheles. Thus malaria - which, at the time, they thought was caused by rotting vegetation; "mal aria" means "bad air" in Italian - began to devastate the British forces in the colony; their life expectancy was half what it would have been if they'd stayed in Britain.

The only "cure" for malaria was powder from the inside of the bark of the cinchona tree, called quinine. It tasted absolutely abysmal. So someone thought, "Hey, let's put some of it in Priestly's water!" [Not his personal water; he was dead 40 or 50 years by this point.] So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.] This was still horrible, so some unnamed hero thought, brilliantly, "We'll just add a spot of gin!" Thus was born the gin and tonic.

I don't know where the hell the word "pop" comes from, but it's the word I use.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:23 pm

My grandfather still drinks quinine water (or what passes for it these days).

The term "pop" came about in 1861. It applied to soft drinks in 1892 when William Painter patented a 'Crown Cork Bottle Seal' to prevent CO2 from escaping the drinks (hence it "popped" when opened.)

Also, Ginger Ale was invented in Ireland; Dr. Pepper (1881) preceeded Coke (1886) which preceeded Pepsi (1898); and 7-Up was originally known as "Bib-labal lithiated lemon-lime soda."

3278 · Post by **3278** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:27 pm

Ancient History wrote:The term "pop" came about in 1861. It applied to soft drinks in 1892 when William Painter patented a 'Crown Cork Bottle Seal' to prevent CO2 from escaping the drinks (hence it "popped" when opened.)

Ah! Excellent. Thank you, AH.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:46 pm

Welcome.

Lord Death Hand · Post by **Lord Death Hand** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:53 pm

I call it soda mostly because when I think of the word pop I ususally attach it to one of the words for father and well I don't want to drink something that could be thought of as a father. Of course I'm just wierd like that.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:24 pm

Weird.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:13 am

So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.]

It sure fucking does. Lots of sugar, lots of calories, and a bit of quinine. I'm not sure what the quinine does, but I've definitely helped myself survive some particularly nasty mornings with the sugary tonic as sustenance. Granted, the nastiness of the mornings had more than a little to do with the tonic, but that doesn't dilute my drink, does it?

Sowhat · Post by **Sowhat** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 3:48 pm

We call it "soft-drink". I know that the term technically means any non-alcoholic drink, but if you were to offer someone soft-drink here they'd be very suprised if you gave them milk, cordial, water, coffee, tea, or anything else that isn't carbonated.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:28 pm

Marius wrote:
So they added the quinine to the soda, which they referred to as "tonic water," since it was supposed to have curative properties. [It doesn't.]
It sure fucking does. Lots of sugar, lots of calories, and a bit of quinine. I'm not sure what the quinine does, but I've definitely helped myself survive some particularly nasty mornings with the sugary tonic as sustenance.

Ah-ah. No. "Tonic water" is just water with bubbles. [I sure /hope/ your tonic doesn't still come with quinine, since that would make it taste more awful, and wouldn't do anything for you, unless you're in a malarial area.] I'm sure there are various /types/ of tonic water that come with sugar, or quinine [although tonic with quinine is "quinine water"] but tonic water is, to my knowledge, just the stuff Priestly made: water with CO2 bubbles in it.

Nightsky · Post by **Nightsky** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:55 pm

Didn't coke have real cocaine in it during the early 1900s?

Alareth · Post by **Alareth** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 7:11 pm

Bouncy Bubble Beverage

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:47 pm

Nightsky wrote:Didn't coke have real cocaine in it during the early 1900s?

Sort of.