[poll]Who ya voting for?

Nash · Post by **Nash** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:03 pm

I saw Fahrenheit 911 the day it came out and it was sold out in every theater in Memphis for the 12-1 o'clock showing.

Now, that this is out (and they have to stop advertising in July because it might "disrupt the election"), I'm wondering who has decided to vote for whom. Just a general poll, really.

You don't have to give a reason, just give a response.

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:20 pm

Bush.

mrmooky · Post by **mrmooky** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:24 pm

Because you asked: Latham. Or, to be more correct, Helen Constas, the local Labor representative.

Chopper · Post by **Chopper** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:25 pm

Szechuan · Post by **Szechuan** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:26 pm

Jack Layton. Come to think of it, the election is today!

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:27 pm

VEED!!!

laughing Monkey · Post by **laughing Monkey** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:22 pm

Anyone BUT bush.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:39 pm

Undecided with leanings towards Bush. Want to hold off on firm decision until I get to hear what the platforms are.

TLM · Post by **TLM** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:03 pm

Not an american, so I say fuck the lot of 'em. The only good politician is a dead or jailed politician.

Anguirel · Post by **Anguirel** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:06 pm

<vc="Homer Simpson">Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.</vc>

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:16 pm

So far George Bush has my vote. Should John McCain run this will change. Or if Kerry starts saying things I like hearing, and that differentiate him from Mr. Bush in some meaningful way.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:22 pm

Szechuan wrote:Jack Layton. Come to think of it, the election is today!

That's right! Canucks, vote! Vote early, and vote often!

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:51 pm

Serious Paul wrote:So far George Bush has my vote. Should John McCain run this will change. Or if Kerry starts saying things I like hearing, and that differentiate him from Mr. Bush in some meaningful way.

hasn't McCain been adament that he will not come on as a running mate this year?

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:53 pm

He will not be a running mate for /Kerry./ I've not heard him refuse to be Bush's veep, which he might well end up doing - and wouldn't that be a glorious thing? Four years of Bush, and then McCain is in the perfect position to run.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:58 pm

If Bush could secure McCain as a running mate for VP, that would go a long way towards getting him more votes in the election. I would enjoy seeing him more than Cheney in the VP office.

[inside joke for a select few] And it's not like Bush will be making deals with Heller. [/inside joke]

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:43 pm

Daki wrote:[inside joke for a select few] And it's not like Bush will be making deals with Heller. [/inside joke]

Depending on who you talk to, it's not the Veep that needs the upgrade.

Szechuan · Post by **Szechuan** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:43 pm

Daki wrote:[inside joke for a select few] And it's not like Bush will be making deals with Heller. [/inside joke]

*snicker*

Eliahad · Post by **Eliahad** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:53 pm

Heller?

Heller Kellen?

crone · Post by **crone** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:55 pm

mrmooky wrote:Because you asked: Latham. Or, to be more correct, Helen Constas, the local Labor representative.

We don't even have a Federal Labor candidate yet, but I'll probably vote for them when the time comes.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:01 pm

Eliahad wrote:Heller?

Heller Kellen?

Hellen Keller. And no.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:04 pm

I probably won't vote. No, scratch that: I /definitely/ won't vote.

Secondary question: How many of you would vote for McCain/Powell if they ran?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:13 pm

3278 wrote:Secondary question: How many of you would vote for McCain/Powell if they ran?

I would vote for them in a heartbeat.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:14 pm

I'll vote for a pretty flower. Particularly a tulip over there.

Eliahad · Post by **Eliahad** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:23 pm

Daki wrote:
Eliahad wrote:Heller?

Heller Kellen?
Hellen Keller. And no.

Spoonerisms to the rescue!

And good, it was more obvious than I thought

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:27 pm

3278 wrote:I probably won't vote. No, scratch that: I /definitely/ won't vote.

Secondary question: How many of you would vote for McCain/Powell if they ran?

Aye.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:34 pm

Yeah McCain has been pretty clear he is staying away from this election pretty much in every way possible. The Bush "people" have been pretty clear Cheney isn't going anywhere.

As for a Powell/McCain Ticket!!!!!!! Yeah I'd vote that. I don't care if they ran as Militant Femanazi Commies!

Liniah · Post by **Liniah** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 10:49 pm

Asuming that my absentee ballot paper work works out ok, I'm not sure who I'm voting for. Veed would be my first choice, though he's not elligible. So, I'll either vote for Kerry, or some obscure leftist candidate that I haven't decided on yet. Last time I went with the 'block Bush vote' and it really didn't seem to matter, so I don't know if I want to go that route again or vote for someone I actually agree with.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:05 pm

3278 wrote:Secondary question: How many of you would vote for McCain/Powell if they ran?

In half a second.

In the mean time, Kerry.

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:04 am

I'd also vote McCain/Powell. Hell, I pondered doing a write-in, only I'd rather not waste my vote.

As for the current candidates, I am still undecided and will probably remain so for at least a couple more months until I feel I have heard enough to adequately make my decisiion.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:17 am

There is only one way I'd ever vote for Bush.

If he grabbed a shotgun and blew Cheney's head off, I'd vote for him in a second.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:27 am

I don't vote. I won't until the Electoral College is disbanded.

That aside, I would not vote for Bush. My Dad'll vote for Bush because he's so old-school he's Proto-Conservative. My Grandmother is a leading member of the Bush fan club, and even though she helped elect Kelly to the Senate she'll vote Bush because he looks like my Great-Uncle James before he got all that shrapnel in his face.

I would only vote for Kelly because I dislike Bush more.

I would not vote McCain because frankly I have no idea who he is.

I would vote for General Wesley Clark, because he is more or less directly responsible for saving my brother's life.

I would vote for Colin Powell, because he's got major credibility in my book.

I would not vote for Nader or Gore because...well, I dislike both of them. Same for Hillary Ex-Clinton.

I would vote for Elizabeth Dole, if only because she's a damn sight more qualified than Bob ever was.

Salvation122 · Post by **Salvation122** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:34 am

Ancient History wrote:I would only vote for Kelly because I dislike Bush more.

You mean Kerry? Christ, the keys aren't even anywhere near each other.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:44 am

If all I do is transpose a damn letter, I don't give a rat's ass. Now, if I had put down Belly, then I'd have been embarrassed.

lordhellion · Post by **lordhellion** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:54 am

I'm hoping that McCain pulls like a 3% write-in vote, that'd be righteous.

Barring that, I'm voting against Bush, i.e. Kerry.

Which sparks another chance to skew this thread off topic--Do you really plan on voting for a candidate, or are you actually planning to vote against a candidate?

Nash · Post by **Nash** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:10 am

I'm only voting for Kerry because I'm voting against Bush, and Kerry is the only candidate who has any chance against him.

And if McCain/Powell ran, I'd be in the happiest of spirits to bolt down to the polls.

Unfortunately, for this election, I'm going to be bitchy and upset election day. I don't want to vote for Kerry, but, for me, leaving Bush in office is like signing a direct reason for this country to go to fucking hell.

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:33 am

I'm voting for Bush because the other options are - and I wish it wasn't so - worse.

I'd consider voting Democrat to avoid voting for McCain, and if you know anything aobut me, you know it's pigs flying before I think about voting Democrat.

ak404 · Post by **ak404** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:00 am

Salvation122 wrote:
Ancient History wrote:I would only vote for Kelly because I dislike Bush more.
You mean Kerry? Christ, the keys aren't even anywhere near each other.

Senator Robert Kelly, I believe. Fuck, I can't remember what state he was from.

lorg · Post by **lorg** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 9:27 am

I don't get to vote but if I did I don't think my vote would come as a surprise to anyone ...

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:43 pm

Marius wrote:I'd consider voting Democrat to avoid voting for McCain, and if you know anything aobut me, you know it's pigs flying before I think about voting Democrat.

All right, now you're the /only/ person who won't vote for McCain, so you've got to tell me why [so I can address it in time for the 2008 elections].

Marius · Post by **Marius** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:48 pm

Simply to begin with, freedom of speech, which is probably more than enough. Campaign finance is so far John McCain's flagship. The reality of that issue is that McCain and other incumbent politicians have dismantled the first amendment, removing effective political competition for themselves.

I'm reviewing his 2000 positions now. Generally I like his budget plans, none of which he'd be able to achieve. Still, they look ok. I'm not really keen on totally elimiinating funding for the arts, but I'm sure willing to go along with it. I like that his stance is generally, lower taxes, don't worry about the federal deficit/debt, fix Social Security, increase and streamline defense funding. All non-starters, but pretty on paper.

lorg · Post by **lorg** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:11 pm

Marius wrote:don't worry about the federal deficit/debt

That isn't an issue to worry about?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:40 pm

lorg wrote:
Marius wrote:don't worry about the federal deficit/debt
That isn't an issue to worry about?

It's an issue that you can't directly effect with policy changes (or rather, the changes needed to directly affect that are likely so drastic they wouldn't get approval). And getting rid of the federal debt is nigh impossible nor is it really the best course of action for the economy.

I'd be very happy to see the deficit shrink and dissapear though.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:53 pm

Do any of you think that your vote actually matters towards electing the president? You do know that the Electoral College is not required to vote as the population does, right? Which makes the popular vote damn near meaningless.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 1:55 pm

You do know that the Electoral College is not required to vote as the population does, right?

Actually that is largely false, from my understanding. While Federal Law does not prohibit the The Electoral College from voting differently, most States have enacted laws that prohibit it.

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:06 pm

Ancient History wrote:Do any of you think that your vote actually matters towards electing the president? You do know that the Electoral College is not required to vote as the population does, right? Which makes the popular vote damn near meaningless.

That doesn't make any sense. Even without such a requirement, the fact is that the electoral college, in almost every case ever, /has/ voted with the population. Therefore, irrespective of what /could happen,/ the fact is that people's votes /have/ counted. [Inasmuch as any single vote can "count," at least.]

I don't like the electoral college any more than you do, AH, but this isn't a valid objection.

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:19 pm

So because it could happen, but it hasn't happened, it's not valid to object to it?

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:24 pm

No. Because it could happen, but almost never happens, is not a valid reason to object on the grounds that one's vote is meaningless. The valid objection would be that one's vote /could be/ meaningless /if it did happen./ And if Moo is in fact correct, the objection would furthermore be only meaningless if all both conditions were satisfied, as well as the condition of living in one of the states where it /could happen./

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:31 pm

There are three cases I know of where the popular vote did not meet with the electoral colelge vote:

Abraham Lincoln.

John F. Kennedy.

George W. Bush.

Frankly, I call that 1/1/1, at best.

[/edit] I'd like to freely admit, if it was not already obvious, that I am a paranoid, cynical bastard who doesn't trust anybody. My views may not conform with anyone else's reality, and I usually don't press if I'm ignored.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:47 pm

Whomever isn't Bush or Kerry.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:53 pm

Instant Cash wrote:Whomever isn't Bush or Kerry.

You could be one of the thousands that writes in Mickey Mouse. Or Nader. Take your pick.