Take a look at this test here.
I rate:
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 6.45
This is no surprise to anyone, I have strong feelings on an authoritarian government.
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The Eclipse
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. Imma go chill with Gandhi.
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36
Economic Left/Right: 6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
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The Eclipse
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It's funny how amazingly far left most of you fools are. According to the site, every single candidate for president, excepting Kucinich and Sharpton are fairly right of center.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
*gives Marius a laptop left hook*
Actually, what I'm enjoying about this compass thing is that I had exactly the same thoughts about the left-right spectrum when I was sitting in history class in the high school.
BTW, Gandhi's got some sweet weed.
Actually, what I'm enjoying about this compass thing is that I had exactly the same thoughts about the left-right spectrum when I was sitting in history class in the high school.
BTW, Gandhi's got some sweet weed.
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The Eclipse
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economic left. Most candidates on BOTH sides tend toward a centrist economic view, no so with social beliefs.It's funny how amazingly far left most of you fools are. According to the site, every single candidate for president, excepting Kucinich and Sharpton are fairly right of center.
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'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
'You must be', said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'
MooCow is a carrier of Mad Cow Disease
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31
Beat this you capitalist pigs.
No big surprise.
I feel like burning down a Mickey D now.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31
Beat this you capitalist pigs.
No big surprise.
I feel like burning down a Mickey D now.
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It's not that I disagree with Bush's economic policy or his foreign policy, it's that I believe...he was a child of Satan here to destroy the planet Earth
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It's not that I disagree with Bush's economic policy or his foreign policy, it's that I believe...he was a child of Satan here to destroy the planet Earth
Bill Hicks
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Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
Look at me! I'm centrist!
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
Look at me! I'm centrist!
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_Patience said: Ang, you are truly a font of varied and useful information.
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_Patience said: Ang, you are truly a font of varied and useful information.
IRC Fun:
<Reika> What a glorious way to die.
<Jackal> What are you, Klingon?
<Reika> Worse, a paladin.
<Jackal> We're all fucked.
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Thank you, Citizen. The Computer is pleased.It's appearing that me and moo are the only two that are actually in support of Big Brother.
Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, become critics. They also misapply overly niggling inerpretations of Logical Fallacies in place of arguing anything at all.
Worse, I'm the only one even pretending to be capitalist.It's appearing that me and moo are the only two that are actually in support of Big Brother.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
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I actually think that the whole test is very slanted toward the left.
To quote moo from IRC:
To quote moo from IRC:
moo wrote:<MooCow> Although in my opinion more of the right wing questions were bizare and psychotic then the left wing questions. "I believe that corporations should be able to rape my mother as long as they produce a profit for thier stock holders"
<MooCow> About as extreme as the left wing got was "I like bunnies"
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Economic Left/Right: 0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21
Bethy seems to be the only person I'm remotely close to. Strange that, I can't remember the last time we weren't on oposite sides of an argument.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21
I'm mostly capitalist, but my result seems to think otherwise.Marius wrote:I'm the only one even pretending to be capitalist.
Bethy seems to be the only person I'm remotely close to. Strange that, I can't remember the last time we weren't on oposite sides of an argument.
_</hr>Weeeeeeeeee...
As E said, I think that's cause this test is scewed to the liberal side of things. The right wing economic questions were more in supporting corporate domination and abuse then individual/private investment and control. At least in my opinion.Worse, I'm the only one even pretending to be capitalist.
I don't know. Maybe I don't understand what capitalism really is. Whenever I make statements about capitalism being all about profit people tell me I'm wrong. Yet, that seems to be what this test calls capitalism.
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Also keep in mind that the "center" line is pretty arbitrary. (Well, not really. Actually it's normative, but for our purposes, that's more or less arbitrary.) This test was written by Brits, who have something of a different idea of where Right differs from Left. By their analysis every single candidate for President except Sharpton and Kucinich are more or less right of center. And most of them still farther than you people.
There is then a need to guard against a temptation to overstate the economic evils of our own age, and to ignore the existence of similar, or worse, evils in earlier ages. Even though some exaggeration may, for the time, stimulate others, as well as ourselves, to a more intense resolve that the present evils should no longer exist, but it is not less wrong and generally it is much more foolish to palter with truth for good than for a selfish cause. The pessimistic descriptions of our own age, combined with the romantic exaggeration of the happiness of past ages must tend to setting aside the methods of progress, the work of which, if slow, is yet solid, and lead to the hasty adoption of others of greater promise, but which resemble the potent medicines of a charlatan, and while quickly effecting a little good sow the seeds of widespread and lasting decay. This impatient insincerity is an evil only less great than the moral torpor which can endure, that we with our modern resources and knowledge should look contentedly at the continued destruction of all that is worth having. There is an evil and an extreme impatience as well as an extreme patience with social ills.
In support of Marius, <a href="http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politic ... l">this</a>.
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I'd be interested to know where Americans would place the line between Right and Left.Marius wrote:This test was written by Brits, who have something of a different idea of where Right differs from Left.
For what it's worth, this seems fairly consonant with Australian views on the issue.
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Gels pretty well with the view in this frosty corner of hell, too (Canada). I'm assuming that the Paul Martin that appears on that spectrum is our PM. His predecessor, Jean Chrétien, would be a lot further towards the authoritartian direction.
We almost need a third axis. The L<---->R economic scale is pretty straightforward (but then, I'm not an economist), but the vertical Authoritarian vs. Libertarian seems a little too broad. Is it focused on how the system is run, or on the goals the system chooses to strive for? Is, say, pro-abortion an authoritarian or libertarian aim? One would think libertarian, but China's one child per family rule amounts to much the same thing.
BTW, all the lefties should click on the "Billy Talent" link in my sig. Just cause. The rest of you are welcome too.
We almost need a third axis. The L<---->R economic scale is pretty straightforward (but then, I'm not an economist), but the vertical Authoritarian vs. Libertarian seems a little too broad. Is it focused on how the system is run, or on the goals the system chooses to strive for? Is, say, pro-abortion an authoritarian or libertarian aim? One would think libertarian, but China's one child per family rule amounts to much the same thing.
BTW, all the lefties should click on the "Billy Talent" link in my sig. Just cause. The rest of you are welcome too.
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Re: Marius
In regards to your comment about British right/left vs. American right/left, Marius, I found the following in their >F.A.Q.< It's not a direct response, but struct me as a related note.
It supports the general world view that Americans are skewed up.You've got liberals on the right. Don't you know they're left ?
This response is exclusively American. Elsewhere neo-liberalism is understood in standard political science terminology - deriving from mid 19th Century Manchester Liberalism, which campaigned for free trade on behalf of the capitalist classes of manufacturers and industrialists. In other words, laissez-faire or economic libertarianism.
In the United States, 'liberals' are understood to believe in leftish economic programmes such as welfare and publicly funded medical care, while also holding liberal social views on matters such as law and order, peace, sexuality, women's rights etc. The two don't necessarily go together.
Our Compass rightly separates them. Otherwise, how would you label someone like the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who, on the one hand, pleased the left by supporting strong economic safety nets for the underprivileged, but angered social liberals with his support for the Vietnam War, the Cold War and other key conservative causes ?