Which Ugly Stereotype Do You Harbour?

DV8 · Post by **DV8** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:50 pm

Sitting in public transport in Amsterdam quite often I keep catching myself harbouring particular stereotypes. One in particular is getting worse and worse. Whenever I get annoyed at a mother snapping at her child and I finally look up to wonder whether I should suggest taking a less aggressive and childish approach and that maybe the reason the kid is obnoxious, loud and stupid is because the mother is obnoxious, loud and stupid I find that she pretty much always falls in the same category; very young, most of the time in her late teens, from Surinam, drinking some god-awful energy drink and getting annoyed at anything the child says or does because it interferes with the (loud) telephone conversation she's having with a friend. It angers me to no end and has lead to the development of the idea that all Surinam mothers must be like that, even though I know for a fact that they're not since I know a few.

It amazes me that I'm so easily goaded into developing these negative stereotypes so easily since I've got a very diverse and multi-ethnic bunch of people in my surroundings that should be more than enough evidence against many of these ugly stereotypes.

What about you? Ever catch yourself doing this?

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:45 pm

All rich people (read not actually folks who are rich, but folks who care about things like a "cool car", fashionable clothes, hence they become rich in my mind) are awful and should be killed. It really tends to leave me wanting to kill a lot of people. It also makes meeting new folks hilarious in an awkard I want to hate you now but I can't because you're friends with so and so kind of way. Too pretty, too tanned, too much make up, too fancy on the clothes, any of those various things will trigger it. There are a few folks I've met that manage to avoid the reaction simply because they actually manage to somehow look comfortable in such things, while avoiding the mess of looking like some kind of face you put on to impress the world around you.

paladin2019 · Post by **paladin2019** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:09 am

Deev, that's the way stereotypes start. I doubt any originated from wholecloth. And the brain wants consistency and looks for patterns. It helps you make judgments and makesure risk if the world behaves in a consistent manner. That's why all child-rearing and dog training manuals emphasize consistent approaches to discipline.

So if you see a pattern consistently and begin to expect the pattern to repeat, how is this abnormal?

EDIT: The important question is how do you act on it?

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:20 am

I imagine racial stereotypes come to mind first (for me). I live in a predominantly Caucasian part of the country and I admit that there are times where I see someone of X color doing certain things or acting a certain way (that reinforces the stereotype) and catch myself falling in to the mindset of "that's typical" or "figures".

It's a bad habit, wrong and one I'm trying to break.

Bonefish · Post by **Bonefish** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:56 am

Fucking Niggers. No, not black people. There's a difference between skin color and nigger-dom. You carry a gun in your fucking crotch, a quarter ounce of crack i nyour pocket and beg me for cigerettes, fuck off. You brag about your big dick ,the girls you've fucked and how you can whup my lily-white ass? Suck my dick. You think Obama is going to make things better just cuz he's black, like you? I want to punch you in your face. And yet, I've got alot of black-friends who do the same, and I consider really close friends. But some of'em are still Niggers. That's ok, cuz I'm probably a nigger.

Fucking Mexicans. Yeah, gutamaula, Nicarauga, Salvadore, whatever. Fuckin' spic. You probably don't speak english, but you've got a license and thirteen kids. You don't pay taxes(well, there's sales Tax) but your kids go to our schools(and learn to speak english, do algebra and our laws)! You steal our jobs(but work fucking hard at them!) and send your money to your family back home. You also rape white college girls, and employ alot of hookers and drug dealers. Some of you deal drugs. And you're always talking about me when your speaking english.

Fucking White College Kids. You're so fucking awesome, because your parents are paying you to go to school. Your rent comes every week, and your parents buy you reefer. I'm sorry, I work for mine.

Bums, People who wear suits, Cops, etc.

The list get's big

Nexusvoid · Post by **Nexusvoid** » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:41 pm

Bonefish wrote:Fucking Niggers. No, not black people. There's a difference between skin color and nigger-dom. You carry a gun in your fucking crotch, a quarter ounce of crack i nyour pocket and beg me for cigerettes, fuck off. You brag about your big dick ,the girls you've fucked and how you can whup my lily-white ass? Suck my dick. You think Obama is going to make things better just cuz he's black, like you? I want to punch you in your face. And yet, I've got alot of black-friends who do the same, and I consider really close friends. But some of'em are still Niggers. That's ok, cuz I'm probably a nigger.

Fucking Mexicans. Yeah, gutamaula, Nicarauga, Salvadore, whatever. Fuckin' spic. You probably don't speak english, but you've got a license and thirteen kids. You don't pay taxes(well, there's sales Tax) but your kids go to our schools(and learn to speak english, do algebra and our laws)! You steal our jobs(but work fucking hard at them!) and send your money to your family back home. You also rape white college girls, and employ alot of hookers and drug dealers. Some of you deal drugs. And you're always talking about me when your speaking english.

Fucking White College Kids. You're so fucking awesome, because your parents are paying you to go to school. Your rent comes every week, and your parents buy you reefer. I'm sorry, I work for mine.

Bums, People who wear suits, Cops, etc.

The list get's big

^This

No, seriously, Bone summed it all up whether he was joking or not. Working a job where you're exposed to the public all the time, specifically late at night, you tend to see the dregs. We actually have a joke that the only people that come into the store after a certain hour are fat, minority, or drunk - pick two.

Edit: Actually, I thought over this some more. Bone summed up my knee-jerk reaction pretty well, albeit with a bit more vitriol, but at this point it's more of a shake-my-head-and-sigh when it comes to seeing stereotypical behaviors. At some point you get used to it and tend to take it as the norm, and not a stereotype.

Bonefish · Post by **Bonefish** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:09 pm

Nexusvoid wrote:
Bonefish wrote:Fucking Niggers. No, not black people. There's a difference between skin color and nigger-dom. You carry a gun in your fucking crotch, a quarter ounce of crack i nyour pocket and beg me for cigerettes, fuck off. You brag about your big dick ,the girls you've fucked and how you can whup my lily-white ass? Suck my dick. You think Obama is going to make things better just cuz he's black, like you? I want to punch you in your face. And yet, I've got alot of black-friends who do the same, and I consider really close friends. But some of'em are still Niggers. That's ok, cuz I'm probably a nigger.

Fucking Mexicans. Yeah, gutamaula, Nicarauga, Salvadore, whatever. Fuckin' spic. You probably don't speak english, but you've got a license and thirteen kids. You don't pay taxes(well, there's sales Tax) but your kids go to our schools(and learn to speak english, do algebra and our laws)! You steal our jobs(but work fucking hard at them!) and send your money to your family back home. You also rape white college girls, and employ alot of hookers and drug dealers. Some of you deal drugs. And you're always talking about me when your speaking english.

Fucking White College Kids. You're so fucking awesome, because your parents are paying you to go to school. Your rent comes every week, and your parents buy you reefer. I'm sorry, I work for mine.

Bums, People who wear suits, Cops, etc.

The list get's big
^This

No, seriously, Bone summed it all up whether he was joking or not. Working a job where you're exposed to the public all the time, specifically late at night, you tend to see the dregs. We actually have a joke that the only people that come into the store after a certain hour are fat, minority, or drunk - pick two.

Edit: Actually, I thought over this some more. Bone summed up my knee-jerk reaction pretty well, albeit with a bit more vitriol, but at this point it's more of a shake-my-head-and-sigh when it comes to seeing stereotypical behaviors. At some point you get used to it and tend to take it as the norm, and not a stereotype.

the vitriol was intentional, of course. I'm generally a very tolerant person(I count among my friends Radical Black Muslims AND Neo-Nazis), but sometimes you get that subconcious tic. And just being all nice about it doesn't really do justice to the great injustice of intolerance.

As a wise man once said: A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

Tiny Deev · Post by **Tiny Deev** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:08 am

I often find myself thinking "Maybe I should watch my shit, or it might get stolen" if someone walks by. Regardless of ethnicity. I have the stereotype of people who want to steal shit in my head. Also, arrogant old people.

Just because you're fucking old, doesn't mean you get to be all high and mighty, motherfucker!

Grifter · Post by **Grifter** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:57 pm

Yes, it does. Now clean up your room!

Couldn't resist.

Grifter · Post by **Grifter** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:01 pm

Must admit, I am quite prejudiced towards youg maroccan males. Though I'm sure that they are not all the same, my experiences with them have been universally negative and that has coloured my preconceptions more than a bit.

AtemHutlrt · Post by **AtemHutlrt** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:47 pm

I think all black people are schizophrenic and think that Jesus taught them kung-fu.

Crazy Elf · Post by **Crazy Elf** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:00 am

I hold stereotypes on pretty much everybody. If there's a stereotype that someone looks like they fit into I hold them to it until it's proven that they're not like that, or that they are, or whatever.

Asians can't drive.

Indians are arrogant twats that have no respect for women and they're all lazy.

Aboriginals are drunk until proven otherwise.

Labourers and tradesmen are uneducated, ill informed and easily led.

People from private schools have no perspective and need a good punch in the face.

And so on.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:11 pm

Australians are of course, Australian.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:49 pm

I generally don't like or trust white people.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:59 pm

Pit bulls are owned only by black people.

Black people can't swim.

When I spot a Mexican family with a large group of children, I'm sure at least 1 or 2 of those youngest belongs to one of the teen girls.

Pregnant woman with 5 other kids in tow is on welfare and has an entitlement attitude.

Only blacks or mexicans put HUGE rims on their car.

Women can't drive SUVs or at least drive them very recklessly and tend to ignore the rules of the road as well as the fact that there are other drivers on the road with them.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:13 pm

I also have a number of these, but I find it a very, very uncomfortable topic to talk about online. That says something about my level of PC'ness or the level I would feel is correct.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:27 pm

I think anyone who claims they don't is a liar. I do think how we act on these thoughts varies, and often is what separates us from each other.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:03 pm

Eva wrote:I also have a number of these, but I find it a very, very uncomfortable topic to talk about online. That says something about my level of PC'ness or the level I would feel is correct.

Ditto on both of these sentences.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:00 am

Gunny wrote:Only blacks or mexicans put HUGE rims on their car.

Every white kid in a Honda/Nissan/fill in the blank with other Asian car in southeastern PA would like to prove you wrong.

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:33 am

Please recall we're discussing theory not reality.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:05 pm

Yeah, but I couldn't pass that up.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:39 pm

Jeff Hauze wrote:
Gunny wrote:Only blacks or mexicans put HUGE rims on their car.
Every white kid in a Honda/Nissan/fill in the blank with other Asian car in southeastern PA would like to prove you wrong.

I'll see your white boy wit bigass rims on his Asian car and raise you an Asian car with glass packs driven only by whiggers. OH SNAP!

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:02 am

I have no idea what glass packs are. I drive an Escort dear. The same Escort actually. Though I'm afraid this may be the last year for the Pimpmobile.

Heavy_D · Post by **Heavy_D** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:22 pm

Talking about pimped cars....whatever happened to the black van?

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 6:04 pm

Cash for Clunkers.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:45 am

So that's how the Module bought his new kayak.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:30 pm

Totally tangentially...you know what one of the biggest auto-centric industries is in ATL? Renting rims. Seriously.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:51 am

Kai wrote:Totally tangentially...you know what one of the biggest auto-centric industries is in ATL? Renting rims. Seriously.

Is that right? That really speaks to the imagination. Like, what would drive a person to rent rims? How long is the common rim-renting period? Is there a rent-to-buy system?

Bonefish · Post by **Bonefish** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:39 pm

It's rent-to-own when your cousin Elray steals'em.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:11 pm

I desperately want to know amounts and timeframes. Like, can I rent rims for a Friday night date? How about just a weekend? Does it have to be all 4? Do spinners cost extra?

3278 · Post by **3278** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:17 pm

Eva wrote:Like, what would drive a person to rent rims?

The same things that drive a person to buy them: prestige, usually, although "increased functionality" is sometimes a motive. The motive for renting versus purchasing is generally, as I understand it, poverty.

Eva wrote:How long is the common rim-renting period? Is there a rent-to-buy system?

Every service I've seen is rent-to-own, with terms as low as three months, [this is basically just "we'll charge 1/3 of the cost of the rims to your credit card once a month for three months] and as long as 2 years. All of them I've encountered are intended to be "rent to own" deals, and are legally handled as such.

That said, I have no doubt there are people who sign a rent-to-own agreement for rims and then return them the next day, eating the buy-in as the price of impressing that nice girl with the dubs on your hooptie. People do no less with furniture, or audio equipment.

For what it's worth, this is not a widespread phenomenon in Michigan [in fact, I don't know of anyplace that does this here]. And if you'll look at the location map for Rent -n- Roll, you'll see why I harbor certain stereotypes of my own.

Tiny Deev · Post by **Tiny Deev** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:39 pm

Getting this thread back on track.

Midgets. Midgets are have a big forehead, nubby little fingers, and a big ass. Also, they talk funny. Plus they walk around with either green tights on and bells on their head, or with a big beard and a red hat in someones garden. Plus, if you find their gold you can keep it, or something.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:47 am

Kai wrote:I desperately want to know amounts and timeframes. Like, can I rent rims for a Friday night date? How about just a weekend? Does it have to be all 4? Do spinners cost extra?

All valid questions that we'll spend exactly zero time on finding answers to.

ak404 · Post by **ak404** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:17 pm

Not a racial stereotyping, per se, but I really hate Christians. Catholics are okay, but those fucking evangelical Protestants can go die in a fucking ring of fire.

Bonefish · Post by **Bonefish** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:58 am

Amen, brudda.

Kitt · Post by **Kitt** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:59 pm

Dirty fucking wetbacks - whether they're Mexican or not, they're all dirty fucking wetbacks. They live 20+ to a house built for 4, they refuse to learn more English than is absolutely necessary ("job"; numbers;"immigration"), they don't pay taxes, they send their little demon children to our schools where we pay for them to *not* pay attention in their ESL classes and get stuck in the school forfuckingever, and they tend to follow young women around, saying rather vile things that they don't think will be understood, as they're in Spanish. They illegally obtain driver's licenses, go to hospitals without insurance and expect that they won't have to pay (they don't pay even if they're told they do have to), and the government won't do a damn thing about it.

Bible Humpers - people so enthralled with the word of God that they twist it to suit their own needs. Gay people are going to hell! People who get and perform abortions are going to hell! Ever read Leviticus, people? Among the list of things deemed an abomination unto God: mixed vegetable gardens, bunnies, shellfish, anything with a cloven hoof, skin afflictions (including acne and freckles), menstruating women, and tattoos. Don't just pick the ones you like, people. If you're going to follow a couple of them, you'd best follow them all. And don't forget - if you and your priest don't slaughter a fatted calf for each major sin you commit, then cook it and eat only the worst parts, you're going straight to hell. Read your fucking Bible.

Today's kids - 10 years ago, I was 12. If I spoke or acted the way todays kids do, I'd have been backhanded from here to Timbuktu and back. I didn't dare ask for a state-of-the-art computer or a top-of-the-line phone. I didn't sass my parents and get away with it. I didn't go out to stores with a pack of kids and no parental supervision. I knew how to read and write, including the use of proper spelling and grammar. I ddnt tak lyk ths n i got str8 Bs or ^ on eng pprs 2. I knew what sex was, how it happened, and what the consequences were. For that reason, I didn't have sex until I was 20. Both condoms and oral contraceptives were involved. I didn't play "16 in 16". (Some stupid thing where you have to fuck 16 different people by the time you hit your 16th birthday.) I didn't scream and cry and make a scene when Daddy wouldn't buy me the stupid-hot car when I turned 16. I didn't even *have* a sweet 16, nevermind make a huge fuss about where it was going to be, who would be there, which crappy rapper would provide the music, and why I couldn't have a 1600$ dress. I went to prom for under 200$ and went home after. I didn't drink socially until college. Now excuse me while I sit on my rocker and tell those damned whippersnappers to get off my lawn.

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:09 pm

ak404 wrote:Not a racial stereotyping, per se, but I really hate Christians. Catholics are okay, but those fucking evangelical Protestants can go die in a fucking ring of fire.

Funny. I've run into the exact opposite locally. The Catholics are the majority of the whackjobs and the Protestants are mostly good people.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:42 pm

You should come visit the south more often....

Jeff Hauze · Post by **Jeff Hauze** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:05 am

Kai wrote:You should come visit the south more often....

But...then I'd have to put up with those awful people from Georgia! EWWW!

Ampere · Post by **Ampere** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:42 am

Ok, so we all have a variety of stereotypes we harbor.

Do we care about it?
One thing I've noticed is that some people seem reticent about their stereotypes, some don't.

Me personally?
My stereotypes aren't something I'm proud of. Actually they are something I actively endeavor to change.

What about you?

Bonefish · Post by **Bonefish** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:22 am

I don't give a fuck about it. Sure, i may harbor a stereotype, but I also give peopel the oppurtunity to prove themselves different from said stereotype. I'm not nearly egotistical enough to think that I can go through life without formign stereotypes, so I instead endeavor to disprove them when it matters, and I can't realyl give a fuck if it doesn't matter to me.