The Death of Bulldrek?

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:00 am

It's time to ask the age old question: Is Bulldrek dead?

I'm not sure, but the evidence seems pretty convincing that it is. Most of the old crew is gone, or on permanent lurk status.

But what's you're opinion?

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:01 am

And just so you know, in case you were wondering, I do realize it is the holiday season. This isn't what I call a recent occurence.

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 8:18 am

Some of us are on vacation (and/or been sucked into the dark void called EQ2 or WoW or CoH)

Nexusvoid · Post by **Nexusvoid** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:15 am

Plus, there's been a bit of decentralization going on. General everyday chat has migrated to IRC. Updates on Drekker's lives and personal goings-on have moved to LJ. Much of the gaming talk and brainstorming has moved to Animalball (at least in my perception) or Dumpshock.

Of course, I could be full of shit - as often is the case - but that's how it is in my eyes.

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:01 am

For me it pretty much is. Bulldrek is boring as shit these days. Most SS topics are nothing but political discussions, and they're pretty inane political discussions. BD topics are just the same few dull topics over and over again.

I check the boards pretty sporadically these days, mostly to see if any new pics have been posted, or if a new gathering has been announced. Other then that, I really couldn't care less.

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:12 am

It's my curse. Every forum I become a regular of dies a slow and painful death.

Beware Animalball, beware.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:47 am

Paul wrote:Is Bulldrek dead?

Eh, yeah.

Subversive Agent · Post by **Subversive Agent** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:22 pm

Doom... DOOM! Woe and doooom!

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:54 pm

Yeah, dead as a marriage. Just going through the motions.

Crazy Elf · Post by **Crazy Elf** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:40 pm

Only a little bit dead.

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:49 pm

'tis the season to be "only a little bit dead".

It got a bit too political around here, that might have turned a few people off a bit, it's what kinda happened for me.

It seemed like people were getting too impassioned and thin skinned, soon will return the days of Ol', when BDers were jovial, obscene, cuddly, and smelly.

[edit]corrected a typo[/edit]

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:01 pm

Subversive Agent wrote:Doom... DOOM! Woe and doooom!

To breathe new life into BD we should get together and conjure up Bubathulhu!

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:37 pm

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:39 pm

Dead? Not so much. A hell of a lot quieter? Yep. We also don't have mad scientist wacky hijinks, sentient swoffee, or a lot of things. It's no different than having a group of friends that you like to hang out with in real life. It's great for a while, and then some of you will find a significant other, some will get jobs, some will move (even if only an hour or two away). We still keep in touch, but we're not kids anymore. The ones who still cling are oftimes as old men meeting in a diner. They get the paper, eat their eggs and drink their coffee while talking about the horrible state of the world.

Or maybe it's like a playground where once you were queens and heroes, where all your dreams came to life. Now that you're older you still like to walk down to the park, but you don't fit in the swings as well as you used to, and the slide isn't nearly as high. And today some of you are meeting at the bar now that you're old enough to get in. Fewer of us still like to come here, but it's precious all the same.

Or maybe it's just that we've gotten what we always asked for. We wanted purity on our forums, so we drove out the undesireables. We mocked and ridiculed newcomers to make sure that the ones left were the ones we could respect even if we didn't agree. We told people who wanted to share their lives with us (I'm looking at YOU, AH) to go get a livejournal. They did. We've divided our hijinks into IRC or real life, we've got our personal discussions kept firmly away from our happy home, and all that's left is the bickering.

Or maybe I'm talking out of my ass, and everything will be okay again when it's ready.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:11 pm

Anymore Bulldrek is just how I keep in touch with people I consider friends. A lot have live journals, yes, and I talk on IRC, but there are a few that don't or I don't see often that occasionally gravitate back to Bulldrek, like Brine.

Bulldrek was always the anti-establishment group, but when we became the establishment, we lost something to be against. There was nothing to keep us going the same direction but momentum and friendship. Some of us know others better now, and respect them more, but some we know better and respect them less, and so we've fractured into subgroups for all intents.

Its the natural cycle of things. And as almost pointless Bulldrek is nowadays, I can't really honestly say we should shut it down even though a graceful exit is better than a slow death, there's too much attached to the name and the idea.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:14 pm

Hey Willy! Get cancer and die, painfully! M'kay?

3278 · Post by **3278** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:21 pm

Ancient History wrote:Hey Willy! Get cancer and die, painfully! M'kay?

Uh, I think he was criticising the people who told you to get a livejournal, not you. I think he was pointing out the hypocracy of a place that's for free speech and sharing turning on its own and telling them what they should and should not share, and when, and how. So, cancer yourself.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:23 pm

AH: Now, hold on. I never had a problem with any of your posts. I'm just commenting on things that have happened to get us where we are. Once livejournal came out, we saw a lot of posts get shot down as being something that should be there instead of here. I mentioned you cuz it happened more often to you than anyone else.

As for cancer, I already have Hep C, thank you very much.

Eva · Post by **Eva** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:25 pm

Damn, that sucks..

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:34 pm

Aha. Well. I misinterpreted and overreacted. Badly. And abusively.

Sorry Willy. Really.

[/edit] I am also an ass.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:59 pm

AH: It's okay. I understand, you've taken a bit of shit around here.

Eva:

Damn, that sucks..

The Hep C? Nah, it's not that bad right now. At the last check I tested negative with no viral load. Now I just keep a lookout to see if it's gone, or just hiding for a few years. The only bad part is not knowing for sure. It just occurred to me again when cancer got mentioned.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:42 pm

Dead? Got I hope not or else I have a secret necrophilia fetish that I don't know about.

Slow?

Yes.

I think it is as Willy stated. People wanted serious conversation, and well, they got it. And now it has become what serious conversation is, boring.

Informative and mind engaging yes, but in the end it gets rather redundant and people lose interest. I read the boards everyday like I have done for years now. And I post about as much. So for me it is the same as it always has been.

Course I wear sunglasses a lot and love the river Nile. :cool

Ghotty · Post by **Ghotty** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:08 pm

Bulldrek shall never die.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:44 pm

We'll multiply!!

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:47 pm

*presses a red button*

whoops.

Bulldrek has been always slow. Let it be. Moment everyone disappears from this board, I would say this board is dead.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:48 pm

WillyGilligan wrote:We'll multiply!!

Oh nO! A Bebey's kid's reference! Aargh!

MooCow · Post by **MooCow** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:54 pm

Or maybe I'm talking out of my ass, and everything will be okay again when it's ready.

You are a fucking genius is what you are.

As for cancer, I already have Hep C, thank you very much.

Yes, but is your Hep C as cute as my Cancer? I think not!

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:15 am

The thread's dead now, Moo's pulled out the adorable kitten pics!

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:01 am

No, kittens have kick started it. I fucking love eating kittens.

Szechuan · Post by **Szechuan** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:24 am

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:00 am

How about puppies?

Alareth · Post by **Alareth** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:04 am

It only seems dead because Even Moore isn't around anymore for us to pick on. I mean we could always unite in Evan bashing

mrmooky · Post by **mrmooky** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:47 am

Bulldrek's not dead. It just smells that way.

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:23 am

mrmooky wrote:Bulldrek's not dead. It just smells that way.

So it smells like hobo?

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:38 am

It only seems dead because Even Moore isn't around anymore for us to pick on. I mean we could always unite in Evan bashing

But was that being alive? There was a lot of activity, and certainly very few fence-sitting wallflowers when he was around. I'm not sure if that's what's being mourned when these threads pop up.

It's nostalgia, maybe the one thing I know viscerally better than I do conceptually. When it all started, and I don't remember that much of the "fight the power" ethic that some people talk about, anything and everything were possible. Everything was shiny and new. These threads are sort of like asking if your marriage is dead because you're not having the wild monkey sex that you used to have twice a day for the first year. It's never going to be the way it used to be. We don't have the Mighty Buddha, Nightsky (I forget if he's gone or just infrequent just now), or Cazmonster (Cazmonster! Of all people.) Change the names around depending on when you joined.

You're never gonna have your first fight again. You're never gonna be a virgin again. And this will never be the way it used to was.

Instant Cash · Post by **Instant Cash** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:52 pm

WillyGilligan wrote:These threads are sort of like asking if your marriage is dead because you're not having the wild monkey sex that you used to have twice a day for the first year. It's never going to be the way it used to be.

Which I feel is very wrong with long term relationships.

I really want to know /why/ this happens.

I know it is not due to lack of desire on my part.

you hear about this with almost every relationship though. Why the fuck does the fire go out? If I could answer that, many people would not have the "I need to get laid" look about them.

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:19 pm

Why the fuck does the fire go out?

I'll indulge myself in metaphor for a little bit. Feel free to duck out and tune back in afterwards if that's not your thing. I'll be straightforward again towards the end.

When camping, the brightest fire is your least useful. Dousing wood with lighter fluid and creating a bright, shiny blaze of glory gets you nothing really but noxious fumes and a pretty show. For cooking or warmth, you want to wait until that flash dies down. Cooking on flames often as not chars the outside of your food and leaves the inside raw. It's the coals that make the best meal, and it's the coals that will endure long after the bonfire has turned to ash. Both fires need fuel and oxygen, but the slow fire lasts.

I'll get to the straightforward part later tonight.

Subversive Agent · Post by **Subversive Agent** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:51 pm

Serious Paul wrote:It's time to ask the age old question: Is Bulldrek dead?

'It's not dead, 'it's restin'!

WillyGilligan · Post by **WillyGilligan** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:13 pm

Okay, I'm back with a straightforward answer for you, IC. We're not meant to live in a single moment in time. That initial infatuation in a relationship is the same glee with which most of us approach a new toy. We play the fuck out of it (pardon the expression) and then we either discard it entirely or allow it to become part of the backdrop. The stimulation it provided for us fades as we figure out the essential question of "friend, foe or food?"

If we didn't get used to things (relationships included), we might all starve to death poking ham sandwiches with sticks trying to figure out what they were. Or die of exposure standing in awe of thunderstorms. At some point our ancestors had to be able to say "Jolly nice rainbow, but these antelope won't skin themselves."

Serious Paul · Post by **Serious Paul** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:04 am

I like that. I like that we can self analyze the community and get somewhere with it.

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:50 am

WillyGilligan wrote:Okay, I'm back with a straightforward answer for you, IC. We're not meant to live in a single moment in time. That initial infatuation in a relationship is the same glee with which most of us approach a new toy. We play the fuck out of it (pardon the expression) and then we either discard it entirely or allow it to become part of the backdrop.

Solution seems to then be keep it new. Get new blood in, invite friends, family or just people you know on the net that seem to be made of awesome and get them to join us here.

If I were fucking the same bird in the same way for 4 or 5 years (pardon the phrase) I'd get bored too.

Kai · Post by **Kai** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:56 pm

points to BlackJack

Doing what I can, yo

Thorn · Post by **Thorn** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:29 pm

Johnny the Bull wrote:If I were fucking the same bird in the same way for 4 or 5 years (pardon the phrase) I'd get bored too.

Totally pardoned. Of course, that's largely because the first image that came to my head was "An American Pie Thanksgiving" or some other act of 'fowl' play. (Bwa ha ha! I crack myself up. ahem.)

Cash · Post by **Cash** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:48 am

You really don't want to know how we got the stuffing in the bird.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:21 am

Don't tell me you used Caz's 9 foot detachable cock...

Patience · Post by **Patience** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:44 pm

Johnny the Bull wrote:
Solution seems to then be keep it new. Get new blood in, invite friends, family or just people you know on the net that seem to be made of awesome and get them to join us here.

I've already gotten one of my two new gamers to get interested in the CLUE files over at Dumpshock; it's a short step from there.

How do you all sell Bulldrek? What can you say?

Angel · Post by **Angel** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 7:57 pm

Patience wrote:How do you all sell Bulldrek? What can you say?

It's cheap, it's easy!

Johnny the Bull · Post by **Johnny the Bull** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:30 pm

Angel wrote:
Patience wrote:How do you all sell Bulldrek? What can you say?
It's cheap, it's easy!

As are the people on it.

MissTeja · Post by **MissTeja** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:50 pm

I dissent.

FlakJacket · Post by **FlakJacket** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:14 pm

*Passes Teja a beer* Get drinking then.

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