Chaos begins again...

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:39 am

I did. After a few messages back and forth, he's agreed to back off. The fact that I massively overpowered his defenses helped, but he doesn't want a war any more than you do.

Hey, what do people think about forming an alliance for Age 2 and 3? Age 3 is starting soon, so why not register an offical Bulldrek alliance for fun?

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:57 pm

That sounds like a plan.

Ah, today was a good day, 30 attacks earned me 3 shiny new excaliburs.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:33 pm

We have our own Clickmaster page!

I don't plan on doing anything with the stats; this is just a handy way of putting all the links in one place. If I missed anyone, let me know and I'll add them.

I'm also going to list Bulldrek.com as our official webpage. (I don't have the knowhow to set up sepearate forums, and I figured it wouldn't be necessary, anyways.)

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:04 pm

Dude! Sweet!!!! Thank you very much Cain!

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:06 pm

http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=7jf6r376

Go ahead and add that link, it's to my brother's KoC account.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:43 pm

Mini-Caz has been added.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:59 pm

Gunnywitch too!! Yes, I'm pitiful. I just started damnit and I keep forgetting about it.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:16 pm

Added. I've also set the chart to list our names in alphabetical order, instead of by click order. It works better with the new rules for clickmaster.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:48 pm

Again, thank you Cain. This is making it soooo much easier to click everyone.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:12 pm

I need more money!!! How do I gain more money (without attacking)??

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:20 pm

Wait for your turns to generate more money for you.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:37 pm

Okay, how do I make the amount go up for that?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:43 pm

The amount is based on the number of soldiers that you have so you'll need to upgrade the amount of soliders you get each day.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:48 pm

How do I do that?

[Edit: Ugh. Nevermind, I found it. I need oodles more money though. *sigh*]

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:35 pm

Someone came knocking at my door earlier today, with 14 spies. They were quite crunchy and good, considering they were little halfling bastards.

This little bastard has an account, make him pay for being Kender.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:48 pm

Oooh, Fuzzboy's spyproof....

Ok, do you really want me to slap him silly?

Battle Report

Your soldiers march onto the battlefield

Your generals report on your army's status:

275 of your soldiers are trained attack specialists
438 of your army consists of untrained soldiers
188 of your trained soldiers receive weapons and 87 are weaponless

79 are given a Dragon
109 are given a Knife

None of your 438 untrained soldiers have weapons

Your field scouts report on the status of the enemy:
The enemy has 8 trained soldiers with weapons and 38 with no weapons
None of the enemy's 21 untrained soldiers have weapons

Both sides charge!
Your army strikes!

Your troops inflict 2,400,420 damage on the enemy!
The enemy sustains 0 casualties!

Tasseloff_Burrfoot's forces counter-attack and inflict 183,543 damage on your army!
Your army sustains 0 casualties!

I then sent him a politely worded email, asking him to back off. I think he'll listen.

Something else you may find useful: a online spy calculator.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:21 am

TassleVic_BumBurglar wrote: You are welcome sir,

But as you see anger does not die fast in my blood....the next time I send my spies, they will do more than just feed your men ..... they are going to feed your corpse!!

I attacked you for the sole reason u attacked me ....so ....we can play cat and mouse as much as we want.

(PS. "Grandmaster_Cain"....if he is your best mate, then my heart breathes for you....I can produce a few hundreds like him. While you are at it ...check out .... "'Orc00")

Yours Truly,
Tasseloff_Burrfoot

I figure I'm off to the races from now until St. Swithen's day with this guy. He obviously likes you Cain. I'll farm him for a few days, then move on, assuming he's got any cash.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:12 am

Orc00 would be more concerned with getting 1st place rather than managing the wrath of trolls and bulldrekkers.

And also...

Cazmonster, remember, you love zombies. Would he want to feast on your zombies?

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:41 am

and I have the Citadel, Cannons, level 9 spies. Right now, I'm just happy with having level 9 spies.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:10 am

Tasseloff_Burrfoot wrote:Hellooo siree,

So you are the big bug that is supporting your "mate" eh? Well you are not all that big and bad you know.... and if you really wanna show your rank .....(lol) send more of your assmites (spies) on me...

(P.S.IF YOU THINK I AM ALONE IN THIS, YOU ARE SO SORELY WRONG....IF YOU SOMEHOW LOSE A FEW "DRAGONS" THEN YOU MAY COMPLIMENT MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE PLAYING THIS GAME)

YOU ARE FUNNY....U ACTUALLY THOUGHT TO SEND ONE SPY....HEE HEE HEE!!

I sent him one more reply. Caz, if you can hold off farming him for a bit, until he sends a reply, I think it'd be best. If we get embroiled in a war right now, we'll all end up hurting quite a bit.

Of course, he must be some sort of idiot to think I'm not sabproof. And I'm a member of several alliances, all of whom have people on the first page. (Heck, I once attacked Lord Striker for fun. The best part it, it costs him more to attack me than it does for me to recover from his attack. We're all perfectly safe from continued attacks by any of the real big boys.)

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:16 am

By the way, if people post their stats, I can possibly come up with a few good farms. Mevoid for example, only does about 300,000 on the defense; if your attack is 500,000 or better, you'll make tons of money from him.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:11 pm

Let me know what this guy says Cain. I will be MORE than happy to smack him down repeatedly. My CA is over 300K so I have nothing to fear from Sab. And in about 10 minutes my Strike Action will be over 3 million with 1600 attack turns to burn.

I will stomp on him good.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:08 pm

Ah yes, the miracles coming from being sabotage-immune...

"Lose a dragon"

I find that would be very difficult if you're sabotage-immune.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:51 pm

Here's my deal. He's a fucking Kender and he needs to fucking die. I just thought it was a hoot that he sent 14 spies to my base. Seems like he really didn't need that 50k in gold he spent.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:31 pm

He's so small as to not be worth it; but just in case he gets annoying, let me tell you about this little trick called a 5x1.

When you're facing someone who's not worth raiding for gold, the number of attack turns you use is irrelevant. You'll cause just as much wear on his weapons with 1 attack as you will with 15. Since you can only hit a guy five times in a 24-hour period, what you do is hit him 5 times with 1 attack apiece. That'll lower dragonskins by about 10-20 points. If lots of people do this, his defense weapons will rapidly become scrap. (This is how several of the real big boys were taken down.)

If he really keeps asking for it, the trick is for all of us (preferably all of us who are sab-immune) to hit him with continuous 5x1's. Soon, he will have no defense, and he won't be able to rebuild it fast enough to keep anyone out.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:55 pm

You're an evil bastard Cain.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:55 pm

Ah, sweet, sweet sab-immunity, all too soon, you shall be mine.

Lord Death Hand · Post by **Lord Death Hand** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:24 pm

Alrighty...Ijust registerd and I'll probably start actually playing tomorrow. Any tips?

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:00 pm

Whoo!! I generate two soldiers a day now!!! Now I need 40K to generate 3 soldiers a day. *groan* That should take me.... 48 hours.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:07 pm

Lord Death Hand wrote:Alrighty...Ijust registerd and I'll probably start actually playing tomorrow. Any tips?

Post your Unique ID here, so we can give you clicks, and otherwise, my advice is to work your attack strength as best you can, spend out of money, and get to 130,000 covert action quickly, but not with everything you've got.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:10 pm

Daki wrote:You're an evil bastard Cain.

Thank you. :evil

There's other evil tricks you can do, if you're feeling really vicious. One of the best requires either a person who's permanently online, or a group of people who are feeling particularily vicious. If you or a group of people can figure out what time he logs on, you can set a raid to happen about a half-hour beforehand, taking away his TBG; if your timing is really good, you can nail him mid-attack-run.

But the 5x1 is probably the nastiest legal trick you can pull on a guy. If you follow it up by declaring open season on him, advertising him as a good farm for smaller people, he may never fully recover. (Later tonight, I'll be participating in a series of 5x1's on Lord Striker. Keep an eye on this one, folks, it should get really interesting really quickly.)

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:41 pm

When is the series of 5X1 attacks on Striker taking place? I'd like to take part in that.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:43 pm

That could be festive - yeah, what time?

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:48 pm

How do you get covert action up to 130k?

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:06 pm

Lots of spies, lots and lots of spies.

That or trade 49 excaliburs for the 6.2 million it takes. I made it to spy level 10 today Whoopie!!

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:21 pm

Lots and lots and lots of spies or 49 excaliburs... er, how do you get excaliburs?

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:22 pm

Upgrade your spy skill first. Don't train any spies yet because once you do, you lose a bit of your money each turn.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:09 pm

I decided to move into 'Naughty Monkey' mode. Since I've only got the 1 excalibur now, I go spying on my page, looking for a lot of money. I'm low in the ranks again, so these guys really can't compete with me spy-wise. I can sneak in, blow up their dragonskins, and then punk them with my 60,000 attack power. Oh, it feels good to be so bad.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:20 pm

Lots and lots and lots of spies or 49 excaliburs... er, how do you get excaliburs?

He forgot you're an orc. In your case, it's Dragons.

It takes a combination of X number of spies at spy level Y to reach 130,000 CA. At level 10, you need about 100 spies; at level 9, 200, and so on. It's cheapest and easiest to go for level 9 spying while training up about 200 spies. At level 8, it takes about 500 spies, so you're better off going for level 9.

The 5x1's on Striker are going on tonight. From 10:50 to 11:50 PM, EST. Keep an eye on the charts, this could be loads of fun. I'd suggest that anyone who can spare 5 attack turns join in the fun-- the smaller you are, the better off you'll be, since he can't waste the effort on retalliation.

Best part is that, in theory, after 256 5x1's it's mathematically impossible to have any defense left, regardless of the size of the people who hit you. He'll be wide open to farming.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:27 pm

I am soooo fucking there. He has over 300M gold right now. And makes 750K per turn. It will be a fun time farming him to death. Now, this is assuming he's not aware of this. He could just sit back and keep repairing his stuff. With 350M he can do that for a LONG while.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:40 am

1 minute ago LordStriker Attack defended 1 1 10 780,329,085 2,536,184 details
2 minutes ago LordStriker Attack defended 1 0 4 781,600,008 2,658,586 details
2 minutes ago LordStriker Attack defended 1 0 3 780,879,000 2,670,913 details
46 minutes ago LordStriker Attack defended 1 1 9 805,123,680 2,597,718 details

As you can see, he dropped 25 million in defense rather rapidly. I had to stop and rebuild; it cost me a fair number of troops and a respectable repair bill. But Striker isn't going to be happy...

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:24 pm

Awww Yeah!

Got in this morning, some assmonkey had taken my turn based gold (180k). I checked on him and he had over a million in his account.

Spy - 20 shitty spies - cool.

Sabo - 12 lvl 10 spies eat 6 Dragonskins for Breakfast.

Attack - 15 attacks and I get 750k gold!

And the moral of the story is, don't fuck with people who have level 10 items until you get level 10 items.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:33 pm

Very nice Caz. I'm just grinning at my 120 Excaliburs and painting up my targets right now...

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:39 pm

There really isn't anything cooler than sabbing somebody into the dirt.

Daki · Post by **Daki** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:42 pm

Oh, I know that joy. The two people who attacked Gunny learned that the hard way. I destroyed EVERYTHING they had.

Gunny · Post by **Gunny** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:42 pm

YAY! I'm at spy level 3 now! All I need is 96,000 gold to go to 4! ...that's gonna take a while.

Cazmonster · Post by **Cazmonster** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:32 pm

Just to confirm - you only need one level 10 spy to blow up a top end item. If I had only known I would have actually burned this most recent target, instead of losing an attacker.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:58 pm

Yeah, it takes roughly 2 level 9 spies, 4 level 8's, and so on. Let me pull up the chart:

How many spies should I send to sabotage?
This depends on your spy level. Here is a short chart, provided by the Inktank Army

The equation is 3 x 2^{(spy level)}
Spy damage:
3 x 2^{(spy level)}
Damages are as follows: Level/Damage
Level Normal Elves
0 3 3.75
1 6 7.5
2 12 15
3 24 30
4 48 60
5 96 120
6 192 240
7 384 480
8 768 960
9 1536 1920
10 3072 3840

Once you're sab immune, there's still value in going for the top-end spies. Although in my case, I'm sitting at level 9; all the targets that are worth anything to me are already sab immune, and increasing my CA will only make me a bigger target. Once I crack 6 mil in attack and 5 mil in defense, I'll think about it, although I'd prefer to have 10 mil defense first.

Cain · Post by **Cain** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:37 pm

BTW, check out gerokost as a good farm for the lower-ranked people. He's spy immune, so only go after him if your CA is good or you're willing to risk it. He does have some high level people in his chain of command, so the smaller ranked players are safest against him.

Don't let that army size fool you, he's only got a DA of about 8000 or so. If your SA is better than that, you should do fine.

FlameBlade · Post by **FlameBlade** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:31 am

I noticed one thing...

Larger your army, more money you can make. In other words, because more money is available, more people will target you. Unless you can be on 24/7 or #1 defense, it's not necessarily good idea to have a large army.

Chaos begins again...

Sweet, sweet Spies.