Bulldrek v3.0

crone

Why do I target you? Because I have higher expectations for you. If you're as smart as you claim, you should be able to do much better than this. I don't know what it takes to get you to have a serious debate past a certain point-- better arguements are ignored, flattery just inflates your ego, and...

crone

I think it would be a pity if Cain left Bulldrek. He has a very different point of view to a lot of people, and often adds interesting ideas to the discussion.

crone

I don't see what the problem is. They are not even native to Kangaroo Island. You can relocate them, but the koala population problems on the mainland are due to to loss of habitat, so bringing in more koalas isn't going to help that. I would have thought better of the Australian Conservation Founda...

crone

In fact, it's interesting to note that the one person who doesn't support hard work [Crone having ironed out her problems with my incomplete and ill-formed definitions], is the one who has been least "successful," provided your goal has been to make any money or insure economic stability....

crone

An Iraqi view - about what you'd expect: The pictures are horrific. I felt a multitude of things as I saw them... the most prominent feeling was rage, of course. I had this incredible desire to break something- like that would make things somehow better or ease the anger and humiliation. We’ve been ...

crone

Let me restate the definitions I used before, Crone, so you don't have to wonder what I mean anymore. :D Why, thank you. Work: effort toward a goal. Hard work: concerted effort toward a goal. Smart work: efficient effort toward a goal. Play: effort toward a goal when the goal is, in whole or in par...

crone

Are sex and violence work for you? I think roleplaying can be work, especially GMing. Video games, I dunno, what do you think? So are you saying your definition of work depends on the perception of the person doing it? (at least in part) Sorry, I'm dumb. I don't understand that question. Are you as...

crone

I get tired playing visdeo games quite often. Physically tired. When I roleplay I get amazingly tired afterwards, I am so drained I could usually pass out. When I fuck I get tired. It taxes me, often my legs are so sore afterwards they quiver. When I beat a person I am exhilerated,often I could eas...

crone

Wow, Paul, that is so bad. I don’t know what to say. This is roughly what's on the video: It starts with two newsreaders. The bloke says something like: They protect but now they are living in fear…prison guards claim blatant negligence…their personal information in the hands of the worst criminals ...

crone

I'm sorry; I keep trying to fit "and crone" in there, but I feel stupid saying it every time, and I'm never quite sure what Cain's said that you agree with, and what he's said that you don't, and I hate to get them mixed up. That's OK. I am not exactly sure what Cain is saying, so I'm not...

crone

Hoy, 3278

3278 wrote: Your argument that a lack of definitions is the problem is completely invalid, in the face of the overwhelming number of definitions offered and accepted by everyone but you.

Not everyone else, as I've said three times now.

crone

If Amercian Indians are complaining, then it might not be racist, but it is rude. It's their culture that is being appropriated to give some sports team a cool logo.

crone

The question is fallacious, though subtly so, and at first I couldn't get my mind around why. The question assumes the existence of Satan as described in the Bible, and therefore assumes the Bible is true. It then turns around and uses Satan to call the Bible into question. Which is ridiculous, bec...

crone

Thorn: I agree with you. This was more specifically in response to Bethyaga saying that yelling at your kids is easier than conning them.

crone

No worries, Bethyaga. I hadn't noticed any harshness.

crone

Do you have kids, crone? (I honestly don't know, so I'm asking.) I have two kids, one 3 and one 6, and I've been at home with them since they were born. Snapping and losing it on someone is quite easy. It takes almost zero effort to be a bastard. It's only the guilt afterward that is hard. When you...

crone

Justify yourself. By what definition is standing over someone with a yardstick and barking orders harder work than making a game out of it and running around and hiding toys and getting involved with your child? And don't say because it's because pleasant = not work and unpleasant = work. That's cr...

crone

When I'm thinking of hard work, I'm thinking of a lot of scenarios. Raising kids is almost universally excepted as "hard work". Is it? I didn't know that. Sometimes it is, but sometimes you do a lot better as a parent by taking it a bit easy. Just yesterday we drove a couple hours away wi...

crone

Interesting question, do you mind if I repost it somewhere else? Some of the former DSFers at Underworld might have an answer.

crone

A lot of his site is members only. Is the link in the public section or the members section?

crone

OK, so I'm back from holiday and this thread is still going Can someone please fill me in on the state of play? Would this have gone any different if we had said 'work' instead of 'hard work'? If so, what exactly would have been different? I'd like to know if the pro-'hard work' people actually make...

crone

Now come the qualifiers. Say the sporadic practicer has to work other jobs to pay the rent so he can take a shot at the music scene. If that practicing is the only time he has, then he's working just as hard as the six-hour a day person. What if his instrument is in the shop. What if he's teaching ...

crone

3278: I'm confused by your last post - I don't know why. I pretty much agree with it except for the last sentence and the bit about "and that's when it's needed." Since bulldrek is being slow and strange right now, and I'm going on holiday tomorrow, I probably won't get unconfused in time ...

crone

Crone: You notice that I did not say 'sustained.' Hell, I don't work well with a sustained effort. I take breaks every 20 minutes in those six hours (from two to five minutes each.) But I need those breaks to stay concentrated and focused for the next twenty minutes. That kind of practice works for...

crone

I don't. It's a guess, based on the fact that it's what makes the most sense. What's more, you're the only person here who thinks the amount of effort you put into something isn't generally proportionate to the amount of return you recieve, so I'm not alone in this assessment. Not the only person. ...

crone

3278 wrote: I think your priority is perfectly defensible. I also think you're the only rational native Australian on the board, in case you were curious.

hey!

crone

The part you're missing is "the all other things being equal." There is no problem with that statement. Given equal opportunity, equal chances, equal skill, equal intelligence, equal efficiency, hard work will out do non-hard work. If I was just as talented a cellist as Bob over there, bu...

crone

1. A house by the sea
2. a TOL sewing machine and serger
3. plane tickets!

crone

"All other things being equal, you'll succeed more with hard work than without?" It's true. If you had tried harder, Cain, you'd be more successful. Aside from the personal attack, Cain and I are really the only ones who see a problem with this statement? Seems to me that a lot of people ...

crone

However, if you look out the window at any given area of Iraq and try to match up what you see with what you've just read, they're probably gonna match up pretty well, and that's gonna get you nice and pissed. OTOH, if you read al-Sadr's paper then looked out the window and saw a pretty good day wi...

crone

See, this issue came up because people are always all like, "Hey yo, Fox News is whack, so you must be wrong." But since I'm reporting factual information, and no one seems to be able to show that they give factual information which is false, I believe the "your source is whack; you'...

crone

I've started new posts a dozen times, and I just can't go through with it. Cain, you are seriously the saddest human being with a real intellect that I have ever met. I feel for you, because I assume that your life includes far more pain and disappointment than it does joy. (Some of that may be due...

crone

A sample of Al Sadr's paper.

crone

I don't think Al Sadr would ever have been a valuable asset to the American cause. He is a big-time fundie Muslim, Sharia law, clerics ruling the country, no compromises. I think Bremer shut the newspaper on a pretext, or at least a judgement call, as a not-so-subtle hint. Maybe because other hints ...

crone

I'm not sure what is meant by 'concerted effort'. I think hard work is work that makes me tired, whether physically, mentally or emotionally. It could be pleasant or unpleasant. I think some people have broadened the definition too much, to include any kind of continued work or effort, including 'sm...

crone

I don't know if this is going to make much sense, but I'll try anyway. It seems to me that punishing parents for things like this is much more about the social consequences of punishment, than about changing the parent at all. They can be a warning to others, and victims can get a bit of revenge, an...

crone

Crone: Michevelli doesn't seem to have agreed with you. And i don't want them cowed, but to have a healthy edge of fear(and therefore respect) towardsthe US. And you supported my earlier statement. Sadr may have negotiated earlier, but his demands were far more radical, than they ould be now. Now h...

crone

Cain: He seems highly variable. He was willing to negotiate before, but he had some pretty unrealistic demands. If Sistani or the Americans let the pressure off, he would probably bounce right back up again. See, I think, the more they see that oppossing the Americans results in guinane BAD shit com...

crone

Al Sadr has agreed to negotiate with Amercians, and dropped a lot of his demands. In fact, he seems to have his tail between his legs right now. I read that he wanted to prevent Najaf turning into another Fallujah. So maybe the Americans have proved that they are not to be trifled with, and if he do...

crone

No one forced these people to be there except themselves. No one purposefully goes near a bully without expecting to get thier ass kicked. Plus, a bully doesn't risk losing anything by not taking your money--a cop on riot duty does. There's always a possibilty that some looney will throw a firebomb...

crone

I've never encountered Fox before, but I clicked on one of 32's links, and I was really taken aback. OK the facts are the same thing, but the way they are presented, and the significance attached to various things can make it into a completely different story. One of the Iraqi bloggers put up a link...

crone

3278, does it matter if the newspaper was inciting violence or not? If you found out it wasn't, would it change any of your views in any way?

crone

Bad situation. A schoolyard money-toter doesn't go looking for a bully to irritate, the bully comes looking for him. The protestors initiated the incident by simply being there. And if you're going to a protest and not expecting the cops to show, you're and idiot and deserve a good macing--stimulis...

crone

I'm not trying to excuse the police for when they went overboard, I'm just saying that I don't approve of the protestors whining and bitching about it when they knew full well that these exact methods would be used on them if they did not do as they were told. If you know the stove is hot, and you ...

crone

The Iraq body count site is a great site, but it doesn't answer 3278's question in the least. He said how many non-combatants have been killed by insurgents vs. how many have been killed by coalition troops. I got this wrong. 3278's question was not 'how many...', but 'how many does Cain think...',...

crone

crone: it does give us a starting point, but I'm in great fear and awe of having to search through all the sources they cite for each case in order to make the data bomb more accurate. I wonder if anyone else has done it.... It gives an idea, at least. I, for one, am not going to quibble over exact...

crone

The Iraq body count site is a great site, but it doesn't answer 3278's question in the least. He said how many non-combatants have been killed by insurgents vs. how many have been killed by coalition troops. The site just lists cause of death as e.g. 'gunfire', without saying who or why. I can see h...

crone

never mind

crone

I don't know a single thing about this protest, or this issue, and I don't really want to, but IF the police did the wrong thing, then warning people that they were going to doesn't excuse it.

crone

Those are good ideas. If you get on with kids, you could take hers down to the park and play with them, or to a swimming pool. She could come and watch, or have some time for herself. If you could babysit in the evenings, she and her husband could spend some time together. If they are doing renovati...

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