Bulldrek v3.0

Cain

Citizenship and imigration status doesn't matter. Due Process and Habeus Corpus cannot be suspended except during a declared war. While Bush may go on and on about the "war on terrorism"; the fact is that Congress hasn't offically declared war on everyone. If an immigrant (even an illegal ...

Cain

To get marginally back on topic-- what would you all say if the Elf told us he was involved in a poly relationship? What about Caz and Thorn, or Daki and Gunny?

Cain

Not religion, per se, but using spirituality I can. Do you feel more complete with her in your life? Does she say the same about you? Then you're connected on a spiritual level. If I believed in a specific religion or set of spirituality, I could use something like astrology, and "prove" i...

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It doesn't really matter. They're being held without bail, without a reading of the charges, without Habeus Corpus or any Due Process. If the FBI/INS came forward with a list of exact charges for specific people, that would be different. But they have no intention of doing so. If they intended to ho...

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If God is omniscient, and omnipotent, then the world we live in isn't a battle between Good and Evil; it's merely a complex game of solitaire. Which means all of human suffering is done merely for someone's amusement. But to counter Evan's claim-- IIRC, the bible was very clear as to the people who ...

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32: Let's put it this way. When examining something, you need the correct tools, yes? Well, science is woefully inequipped to deal with emotion and metaphor, with images and instinct. To deal with these, the tools of religion and spirituality exist. The problem is that both are necessary to the huma...

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Hard-core proof isn't necessary. See, the problem with people like 32, and their "pure logic" approach, is that they simply fail to realize that science and religion are the same things. Both are cosmogonies, attempts to explain the universe-- the difference is that one uses the lannguage ...

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Wow, too much in this thread to keep up...

So, let's try tossing out this example, and see what y'all come up with.

"Do you believe in God?"

Tell me your responses, and why.

Cain

Here's the question I have... According to the Bible, humans are fallible and imperfect, incapable of fully comprehending God's mind. Fundamentalists claim that they have a perfect understanding of God's will and plan. Am I the only one who sees this inconsistency? Let's leave the chapter-and-verse ...

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C'mon, Evan, you're better than that. You've been pretty good about seperating your opinions from what the verses actually say. Don't stop now. But back to the subject at hand. Here's a question for the rest of you-- if it was anyone here but Evan discussing polygamy; if it was someone who isn't an ...

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There's another verse that comes to mind... something about the speck in your neighbor's eye, and the log in your own? :P But to get marginally back on topic, IIRC you believe that one should hold oneself to the highest standards of the Bible. Paul was pretty clear that a deacon should have only one...

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MooCow: I'll toss in my history lesson here. About 30 years ago, kids who were too LD to go to normal schools were frequently moved into institutions. It was considered the best for them; so those severe ADD kids were lumped in and perpetually surrounded by kids who could barely drool on their own. ...

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Going back to Gunny's question, so I can make one of my favorite rants... Don't be so insulting to special ed, guys. Sure, it needs a lot of help. However, it's a damn sight better than what came before it-- total institutions, where kids with mild disabilities were locked away from society. While s...

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I'm not even going to try quoting scripture, past what I did. I'm curious to see what you think of that argument, Evan; but I'm sure you probably overlooked it in the flood of responses. But back to the point I wanted to make. Look, so long as everyone involved with this relationshipis a consenting ...

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Sowhat: Ease up. I don't like Evan's beliefs any more than you do, but he's got every right to 'em. Evan: OK, granted that my definition of "successful" is different. The "sucessful" poly families I know of only include ones that have been together for 5-10 years or longer-- not ...

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And here's where my feelings of doubt creep in. Ok, Evan, granted all the poly families I've known are Wiccan or Apathetic. But the one solid rule in all sucessful poly relationships is equality among all. That is to say, one person is not in charge of anything, in any situation. In a normal relatio...

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It's a delaying tactic, designed for keep women from having abortions. Most women with an accidental pregnancy won't realize they are prenant until the 4th week, the week of the first missed period. That's 1 month gone. If they don't realize it until later, that's even more time gone. With an additi...

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Evan: You wanted to know what steps you should take, to prepare to add another person into your relationship? Prepare to be more tolerant. I don't care if you're a saint, you'll need to be more tolerant-- there's not such thing as being too tolerant in a poly relationship. The amount of compromise y...

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Sorry, double-post

Cain

Whoa, whoa, whoa. While I may disagree with Evan's situation, I totally agree with their right to have a polyamourous relationship. C'mon, if someone who weren't an uber-Bible thumper came along, and discussed the ramifications of an open relaionship, we'd be pretty tolerant about it. I mean, if Sub...

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All right, let's preface this by saying I'm no Christian. I'm completely neutral on the subject of religion; I believe in active apathy as faith. I don't believe the Bible has any more validity than any other holy book-- which is to say, none. That being said, I do agree that the life they choose is...

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Anaka: An interesting argument, and not without merit. I think the next question is, since it took a big movement back on the 60's and 70's to bring black people into full acceptance in media, do you see evidence of a similar push happening for Asian males in the near future?

Cain

I also have some trouble with your assertion that Asian's are asians, regardless of where they were raised. Look around you. Of the members of Bulldrek, we have no blacks, no hispanics or latinos, and only 2 people - no, three - who are Asian or of Asian descent. So you tell me, does culture have a...

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Actually, i know of a few Asian-american rappers. They don't like to talk about it, because they feel they'd get laughed at. I can't honestly say they're wrong, either. With artists like James Iha (of the Smashing Pumpkins) and the Automator, working very seperat e kinds of popular music-- I find it...

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32: As Cash pointed out, the question is more if such music/film is being... well, supressed isn't the right word, but ignored? There's no shortage of Asian and asian-American popular musicians, from what I can tell. The only place where the shortage shows up is on the to 40 charts. I find it diffic...

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After trying it under that name, I came up with 2 songs that scored in the top 40. Good for an honorable mention, definitely; but I can't seem to find any that scored in the top 10. Not to say that he isn't impressive; but prejudice is, by definition, more about perception than fact. Is there anyone...

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Bethy's pretty much got it right. The thing about Black people was that a concerted effort was made, by Hollywood actors, to break the stereotype. I'm wondering if a similar effort is being made now. He's also right about the definition of "famous". The thing I find most intriguing is that...

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OK, tried this on DSF, but I want to see how it works here as well... The question came up in a recent debate. The assertion was made that Asian males are the most prejudiced people in American society. The Asian male has two media images: Comic relief and Action hero. We can all easily think of Asi...

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Eva wrote:Is it ever /not/ rush hour in LA? We drove through there in the middle of the night and all fourteen lanes were full.

Yeah, it's not rush hour when traffic is actually moving.

Cain

To an outside observer, it seems that they love nothing mroe than to bicker and feud with one another. Until you do something to them-- whereupon, they all band together and proceed to whomp on whatever got in their way. Isn't that true for all cultures? Not as much. Americans are known for being u...

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Well.... If you don't mind hearing stories from another old fart.... One of my first driving lessons was in LA rush hour. I was on this family trip to San Diego, and I was doing a lot of country driving. My dad fell asleep, since there's a lot of nothing between Fresno and LA. So, he didn't notice w...

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Actually, I found the New Yorker thing to be rather intriguing. In the comics, Spidey has had a love-hate-love relationship with New Yorkers in general. He keeps flipping between their best buddy to the hero everyone loves to hate. Granted, though, 9/11 did bring to my mind the fact that American cu...

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No kidding. The problem with Libertarian tax plans is the "free rider" trend-- people who choose to not pay for something, and yet gain the benefits of it. Roads are an excellent example of this. We get the benefit of having roads, inasmuch as we have transportation many times faster than ...

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C'mon guys. The real reason why it happened is because they're trying to stay faithful to the Spiderman sage. Peter Parker, at this stage, is the guy who never gets the girl. Someday (as in, in a later movie) they'll get together. But for right now, it's not in the cards.

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